I rarely come here to this web-forum. You might have more luck posting to the usenet newsgroup rec.autos.makers.chrysler. I posted the following there a couple years ago:
So I had major service done to my year 2000 300m. I'll post price details later, but for now I just want to comment on the timing belt and water pump.
The original belt has the following markings on it that are clearly visible:
Do Not Crimp
98+ MY 3.2/3.5L
Chrysler Pentastar Logo
The flat surface has some wear or scuffing (nowhere near enough to wipe out the above printed markings, which were in printed in orange color).
The ribbed or tooth surface looks brand new. No micro cracks, no frayed edges. Maybe I'll take a picture and post it. This is a 10 year old belt, with 90k miles on it. And I was worried I was living on borrowed time with it. Sheesh. It probably could have easily lasted another 5 years and 50k miles.
The original water pump has has the following cast into it:
Chrysler Pentastar Logo
The impeller is black, and seems to be plastic. The shaft turns freely, but absolutely no play is detectable by hand
This was not the part number that I've been quoted previously, but it does seem to be a legit number according to this:
Water Pump Warehouse Messages
What I was told when shopping for parts was that the water pump P/N was 4792195, which supercedes to 4792195AB which supercedes to V9900085.
Here are more Chrysler water pumps:
Results for Chrysler
So my original pump was replaced with this:
"New Water Pump" printed on the box
So I'll hang onto the belt and pump in case I need them in the future.
This is what I'm looking at:
- replace timing belt
- replace timing belt pulley
- replace front main oil seal
- replace water pump
- replace upper and lower rad hoses
- change transmission oil and filter
- change differential oil
- change power steering fluid
- change engine coolant (but not doing "flush")
The bill for that is coming in at $1,700. The timing belt is $220, the pulley is $120, water pump is a little over $100, and labor is $300 - $400. Changing the oils/fluids for the differential, PS and trans is about $170 *each*. The rad hoses are probably pushing $100 each. With tax, this is going to be pushing $2k.
That's why I'm not too keen on a flush and t-stat for an extra $300.
The serpentine belt and it's pulley was changed 3 years ago, and the differential amd PS fluid has been changed only once so far. I'm not sure if the tranny fluid has ever been changed. Coolant is still original.
If you add all that up, including the spark plugs (which I changed a couple years ago), it comes to about 2,500-$2,700 for 10 years worth of ownership and use. Include the brake / rotor service I've done myself, the front sway bar bushings and end-links, and I'm probably looking at $3k total maintainence cost.
After contacting 6 local dealerships and 4 aftermarket parts stores:
Timing Belt Hydraulic tensioner (have been told that Chrysler also calls this a "damper". P/N 4573347. Standard Canadian Dealer price = $186. Have been quoted as high as $208. Presumably this is the "original" factory part. Today it superceded to P/N 4892109AA which MUST be paired with pulley P/N 4663515AD. Original pulley P/N is 4663515.
If I read this right, then if original pulley is not available, then if the newer pulley is used then the newer tensioner must also be used - regardless of the condition of the original tensioner.
Standard Canadian dealer price for original pulley is $98 (have been quoted as high as $118). Standard price for newer tensioner is $184 (highest = $206). Standard price for newer pulley is $69 (highest = $84).
Original pulley is practically non-existant locally and (so I'm told) in the US. Original tensioner is still available. Newer pulley must come from the US (none in Ontario).
Three to four out of 6 local dealerships quote the "standard" price for all items. One out of six consistently quote 10 to 30% higher.
Standard price for timing belt (P/N 4792353) is $220 (highest = $275).
Water pump original P/N was 4792195 ($120), which superceeded to 4792195AB ($148) which now superceeds to value-line P/N V9900085 ($133). 4792195AB (if I really want it) must come from the US (none in Ontario).
Front main seal (P/N 4792317AB) is quoted at $12.
Aftermarket part stores:
No parts stores sell the tensioner at all, and one or two have pulley but sometimes it's identified as a "timing component kit", and sometimes it is available as part of a kit with a timing belt (sometimes known as a belt and "roller" kit). Examples:
Dayco 84086 Pulley ($70 - $85)
Goodyear P/N GTK0255 ($85 - $130 belt + pulley)
Goodyear P/N 40295 ($173 belt only)
Dayco P/N 95295 ($180 - $216 belt only)
Gates TCK-295 ($290 Belt with pulley)
Gates TCK-295P ($317 Belt with pulley - and seals?)
Contitec TV295 ($152 belt only)
AC Delco or Dynagear ($152 belt only)
The P/N for the belt will usually have a "295" regardless who makes it because that's the number of teeth.
The Chrysler issue with the different versions of the tensioner and pulley combination are not indicated or are not present with the aftermarket pulleys (so it seems).
Aftermarket water pump comes in two flavors - remanufactured and new.
Fenco (Prestone?) ($80 - $124) new pump (NP1664)
AC Delco ($140) new pump (P/N 252-692)
Cardone ($85 + $15 core)
Prestone ($110) new pump (same as Fenco?)
ASC Industries ($124) new