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Old 01-24-2010, 12:53 PM
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Default No Crank Condition!

Got stranded once already with this.
04 just decided not to start. gel cell battery brand new.
towed to dealer.
400.00
ground wire from transmission to exhaust manifold loose.

now works fine, until yesterday. did it again.

odd thing is when i turn key to on. and wait a short while, p0800 comes up in dash under gear selection graphic. and gear selection graphic just shows a box around all gears.

getting wary of this ol girl.

i have the shop manual for the car and it doesn't even show a p0800 as a code. online i read that it is not a valid code.

anyone else seen this. thanks as always for the help in here.
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what year pac and engine size
when it wont start what will it do?
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ok, here's what i did today.

i have the 3600 page shop manual for the car.

did all the steps involved in "no crank condition" , except for taking out pcm.

B+ at relay 12v
relay input voltage 12v with key to start
relay fine
relay output power cable to solenoid .2 ohm
power cable at solenoid gets 12v with key to start
disconnected 12v power wire to starter and relay input wire at solenoid to test and reconnected.
no start still
massaged starter with 4 - 5 rappings of hammer.
started right up
then didn't start
then did
then didn't

purchased new starter

i have a 2003/04 date of manufacture

also my tech guru friend, where in the hell is this "transmission ground wire" that supposedly caused the problem.

i intend to just switch out the starter, and just do it and be done with it, but i would really like to know where that ground wire is he speaks of, i didn't see any obvious ground wire whilst i was down there.

thanks as always for the help chrysler guru
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still did not answer my simple question
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sorry,mention 04 in first post, thought you wanted more specific (starter models change based on month made in 2003) so i put that more detailed info in second post for you.

forgot about the second part of your question

it every 10 - 20 turns of the key to "start" will give a little electrical tick sound at the starter, and of course you can hear the relays chatting away, but it will only actually crank on a rare occasion (involves mentioned massaging)
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u hear a click or clunk each time u turn it? yeah that sounds like a starter.
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NOPE! I am ready to light this thing on fire. Seriously.

Got the starter installed with the power leads. Reconnected the negative and it started right up. Did it again. Started right up. 3x good to go.

Must have been the starter.....

Put all the other gizmos back together closed the hood.

NO START.

SAME THING AS BEFORE.

occasional clicking from starter area.

tested the power at the accessory

11.67v (gel cell battery - brand new)

tried to start again. started right up.

now i'm going to hope it starts tomorrow so i can run to dealer/parts shop and get codes done.

any ideas?
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the ground wire for the starter has been known to wiggle loose check and make sure its tight on the contacts.
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that was my earlier question.

A. what was the tech talking about with a ground wire on transmission being loose? where is that one?

B. you say starter ground. where is that?

the only obvious ground wire i found is the one dead center of front middle of the motor, connecting block to intake.

if i put took off a random engine bolt and put a ring connector on it and connected that to the battery, would that eliminate any ground mischief.

i intend to run a hotwire from battery to input lead on the starter solenoid and see if that starts it. if not, is simply has to be a ground issue, right?

unless the power to the starter goes through some kind of big fusible link? but that's not in keeping with the fact that it starts sporadically.
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its not on the tranny its right on the starter itself if u replaced the starter u took it off to replace it.
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