2002 Sebring AC intermittent - AC clutch not always engaged
#12
I'm sorry to resurrect this thread, but I couldn't find a newer thread that covered this same issue & fix.
I too just had this issue on my '01 Sebring. Compressor would work and blow cold with the unit set to defrost, but not in any of the A/C positions.
Oddly enough, if it was cooler... it would sometimes work, but when you really needed the a/c it would not.
I found this fix on a site where people just registered complaints (i.e. not a help fourm). It has to do with the controller board.
If you are experiencing this issue, pop the controls out and unplug them. Then turn the controls upside down and take out the 3 philips screws. Carefully part the unit and you will then see 8 pins (1 and 5 marked). Try resoldering #8 (regardless of how good it might look).
Be careful... don't use too much heat and melt the whole assembly.
I did it on mine and this fixed the issue for me (as it had for the original poster on the other site).
One more thing... as soon as I took the unit out and turned it over, the whole picture became very, very clear.... the part had LUCAS stamped on it. If you have ever worked on an English car.... you will understand why.
I too just had this issue on my '01 Sebring. Compressor would work and blow cold with the unit set to defrost, but not in any of the A/C positions.
Oddly enough, if it was cooler... it would sometimes work, but when you really needed the a/c it would not.
I found this fix on a site where people just registered complaints (i.e. not a help fourm). It has to do with the controller board.
If you are experiencing this issue, pop the controls out and unplug them. Then turn the controls upside down and take out the 3 philips screws. Carefully part the unit and you will then see 8 pins (1 and 5 marked). Try resoldering #8 (regardless of how good it might look).
Be careful... don't use too much heat and melt the whole assembly.
I did it on mine and this fixed the issue for me (as it had for the original poster on the other site).
One more thing... as soon as I took the unit out and turned it over, the whole picture became very, very clear.... the part had LUCAS stamped on it. If you have ever worked on an English car.... you will understand why.
#14
It ended up being the **** on the dash. I got a replacement from the junk yard. If I remember correctly, the face plate and the three control ***** all popped out in one piece and the whole this plugs into the dash. I can't remember if it unscrews or just pops out.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
#15
I saw that after I posted. I've taken mine out and tried a used one off eBay and no change, but I've been told there could be microscopic cracks in the soldering on the circuit board so I'm gonna try resoldering it this weekend
#16
sorry to bring this up again.... But HELP!
I have the same problem on 2004 Sebring...When you said that thing about the "controller" and flipping over and soldering pin 8...What controller did you mean?
The HVAC on dash that the driver sets/control temperature, blower speed etc.? I heard there was an under the dash computer controller that takes signals from the HVAC on dash and regulates something on the compressor. - which did you mean?
I did replace the in-dash whole piece two years ago (a rebuilt piece from PartsGeek) and it did not fix the problem I was having THEN (that it would only blow at speeds 2,3 above---NOT at speed 1). Then later I had the "compressor clutch not staying engaged" problem) - maybe that is because the replacement on dash climate control was bad???? if so that was an easy fix.
I have the same problem on 2004 Sebring...When you said that thing about the "controller" and flipping over and soldering pin 8...What controller did you mean?
The HVAC on dash that the driver sets/control temperature, blower speed etc.? I heard there was an under the dash computer controller that takes signals from the HVAC on dash and regulates something on the compressor. - which did you mean?
I did replace the in-dash whole piece two years ago (a rebuilt piece from PartsGeek) and it did not fix the problem I was having THEN (that it would only blow at speeds 2,3 above---NOT at speed 1). Then later I had the "compressor clutch not staying engaged" problem) - maybe that is because the replacement on dash climate control was bad???? if so that was an easy fix.
#17
I have the same problem on 2004 Sebring (compressor engaged and very cold, then will not stay engaged for hours and hours).
What controller did you fix?
When you said that thing about the "controller" and flipping over and soldering pin 8...What controller did you mean?
The HVAC on dash that the driver sets/control temperature, blower speed etc.? I heard there was an under the dash computer controller that takes signals from the HVAC on dash and regulates something on the compressor. - which did you mean?
I did replace the in-dash whole piece two years ago (a rebuilt piece from PartsGeek) and it did not fix the problem I was having THEN (that it would only blow at speeds 2,3 above---NOT at speed 1). Then later I had the "compressor clutch not staying engaged" problem) - maybe that is because the replacement on dash climate control was bad???? if so that was an easy fix.
#18
I'm sorry to resurrect this thread, but I couldn't find a newer thread that covered this same issue & fix.
I too just had this issue on my '01 Sebring. Compressor would work and blow cold with the unit set to defrost, but not in any of the A/C positions.
Oddly enough, if it was cooler... it would sometimes work, but when you really needed the a/c it would not.
I found this fix on a site where people just registered complaints (i.e. not a help fourm). It has to do with the controller board.
If you are experiencing this issue, pop the controls out and unplug them. Then turn the controls upside down and take out the 3 philips screws. Carefully part the unit and you will then see 8 pins (1 and 5 marked). Try resoldering #8 (regardless of how good it might look).
Be careful... don't use too much heat and melt the whole assembly.
I did it on mine and this fixed the issue for me (as it had for the original poster on the other site).
One more thing... as soon as I took the unit out and turned it over, the whole picture became very, very clear.... the part had LUCAS stamped on it. If you have ever worked on an English car.... you will understand why.
I too just had this issue on my '01 Sebring. Compressor would work and blow cold with the unit set to defrost, but not in any of the A/C positions.
Oddly enough, if it was cooler... it would sometimes work, but when you really needed the a/c it would not.
I found this fix on a site where people just registered complaints (i.e. not a help fourm). It has to do with the controller board.
If you are experiencing this issue, pop the controls out and unplug them. Then turn the controls upside down and take out the 3 philips screws. Carefully part the unit and you will then see 8 pins (1 and 5 marked). Try resoldering #8 (regardless of how good it might look).
Be careful... don't use too much heat and melt the whole assembly.
I did it on mine and this fixed the issue for me (as it had for the original poster on the other site).
One more thing... as soon as I took the unit out and turned it over, the whole picture became very, very clear.... the part had LUCAS stamped on it. If you have ever worked on an English car.... you will understand why.
I have the same problem on 2004 Sebring (compressor engaged and very cold, then will not stay engaged for hours and hours).
What controller did you fix?
When you said that thing about the "controller" and flipping over and soldering pin 8...What controller did you mean?
The HVAC on dash that the driver sets/control temperature, blower speed etc.? I heard there was an under the dash computer controller that takes signals from the HVAC on dash and regulates something on the compressor. - which did you mean?
I did replace the in-dash whole piece two years ago (a rebuilt piece from PartsGeek) and it did not fix the problem I was having THEN (that it would only blow at speeds 2,3 above---NOT at speed 1). Then later I had the "compressor clutch not staying engaged" problem) - maybe that is because the replacement on dash climate control was bad???? if so that was an easy fix.
#19
sorry to bring this up again.... But HELP!
I have the same problem on 2004 Sebring (compressor engaged and very cold, then will not stay engaged for hours and hours).
What controller did you fix?
When you said that thing about the "controller" and flipping over and soldering pin 8...What controller did you mean?
The HVAC on dash that the driver sets/control temperature, blower speed etc.? I heard there was an under the dash computer controller that takes signals from the HVAC on dash and regulates something on the compressor. - which did you mean?
I did replace the in-dash whole piece two years ago (a rebuilt piece from PartsGeek) and it did not fix the problem I was having THEN (that it would only blow at speeds 2,3 above---NOT at speed 1). Then later I had the "compressor clutch not staying engaged" problem) - maybe that is because the replacement on dash climate control was bad???? if so that was an easy fix.
I have the same problem on 2004 Sebring (compressor engaged and very cold, then will not stay engaged for hours and hours).
What controller did you fix?
When you said that thing about the "controller" and flipping over and soldering pin 8...What controller did you mean?
The HVAC on dash that the driver sets/control temperature, blower speed etc.? I heard there was an under the dash computer controller that takes signals from the HVAC on dash and regulates something on the compressor. - which did you mean?
I did replace the in-dash whole piece two years ago (a rebuilt piece from PartsGeek) and it did not fix the problem I was having THEN (that it would only blow at speeds 2,3 above---NOT at speed 1). Then later I had the "compressor clutch not staying engaged" problem) - maybe that is because the replacement on dash climate control was bad???? if so that was an easy fix.
#20
Thank you for your (quick) reply.
Good luck in fixing yours.
A friend of mine "energized" the clutch on the air compressor and it engaged fine. But when the car is doing that, it only lasts for 2-30 minutes and then stops the signal to the clutch to engage.
I am hoping that it is either the on-dash user control unit (above the radio) and/or the relays.
I just ordered a new control unit (my last used one might not have been good), and every relay that might relate to this (see below). On PartsGeek I saw an HVAC relay AND a "Compressor Clutch Relay". I will try them out and hope that it is not the PCM computer. Then send back what didn't work I guess.
Here is what I ordered to try (I think there may be some overlap here - but I would have it than not have it to try):
2004 Chrysler Sebring A/C & Heater Relay Price: $23.08 Core: $0.00 Extended Warranty: $0.00 Qty: 1 Part #: RY-679
2004 Chrysler Sebring A/C Control Relay Price: $9.08 Core: $0.00 Extended Warranty: $0.00 Qty: 1 Part #: RY-612
2004 Chrysler Sebring A/C Compressor Throttle Cutoff Relay Price: $19.08 Core: $0.00 Extended Warranty: $0.00 Qty: 1 Part #: 36126
2004 Chrysler Sebring A/C Compressor Clutch Relay Connector Price: $35.33 Core: $0.00 Extended Warranty: $0.00 Qty: 1 Part #: S-1600
Thank you again for your help..Let me know if you learn anything and I, too, will pass back if I do.
Good luck in fixing yours.
A friend of mine "energized" the clutch on the air compressor and it engaged fine. But when the car is doing that, it only lasts for 2-30 minutes and then stops the signal to the clutch to engage.
I am hoping that it is either the on-dash user control unit (above the radio) and/or the relays.
I just ordered a new control unit (my last used one might not have been good), and every relay that might relate to this (see below). On PartsGeek I saw an HVAC relay AND a "Compressor Clutch Relay". I will try them out and hope that it is not the PCM computer. Then send back what didn't work I guess.
Here is what I ordered to try (I think there may be some overlap here - but I would have it than not have it to try):
2004 Chrysler Sebring A/C & Heater Relay Price: $23.08 Core: $0.00 Extended Warranty: $0.00 Qty: 1 Part #: RY-679
2004 Chrysler Sebring A/C Control Relay Price: $9.08 Core: $0.00 Extended Warranty: $0.00 Qty: 1 Part #: RY-612
2004 Chrysler Sebring A/C Compressor Throttle Cutoff Relay Price: $19.08 Core: $0.00 Extended Warranty: $0.00 Qty: 1 Part #: 36126
2004 Chrysler Sebring A/C Compressor Clutch Relay Connector Price: $35.33 Core: $0.00 Extended Warranty: $0.00 Qty: 1 Part #: S-1600
Thank you again for your help..Let me know if you learn anything and I, too, will pass back if I do.