2000 Voyager - Transmission Issue
#11
We have a 3.3L Grand Voyager with transmission issues. The van does not move at all, none of the gears work. However when shifting through the gears you do hear some movement going on, sounding like it is shifting the metal gears, however it does not move. The gear selector indicator also changes showing which gear you are in.
We have changed the tran oil, solenoid, speed sensors, tcm, and removed and cleaned the ground wire.
When we loosen the tcm bolt and pull it away (basically disconnecting it) the gear selector indicator on the dash lights up all of the gears however when put in drive the car does move. I took it out for a spin (noticed the speedometer did not work when the tcm is also pulled) like that and it stayed in 1st gear, it did not change gears at all. However when the tcm is pushed back into place and the gear selector lights up showing the correct gear selection the van does not move.
I am not sure what the problem is, I have looked through the forum however can't find a solution, I know my transmission is not the issue since first gear worked just fine.
We have changed the tran oil, solenoid, speed sensors, tcm, and removed and cleaned the ground wire.
When we loosen the tcm bolt and pull it away (basically disconnecting it) the gear selector indicator on the dash lights up all of the gears however when put in drive the car does move. I took it out for a spin (noticed the speedometer did not work when the tcm is also pulled) like that and it stayed in 1st gear, it did not change gears at all. However when the tcm is pushed back into place and the gear selector lights up showing the correct gear selection the van does not move.
I am not sure what the problem is, I have looked through the forum however can't find a solution, I know my transmission is not the issue since first gear worked just fine.
- unbolting is unearthing is disconnecting while live
- did you pull the TCM after disconnecting the battery NEG terminal, and only then, reconnect the battery to read the codes ?
Pull the NEG all night then see what happens when you re-boot all 3 modules in the morning. Better still pull both NEG & POS and clamp them together to discharge the stored capacitor[s], then see what happens in the morning re-boot. I've never seen a 'matco' this side of the pond I do know its only recently 2015 they joined the big boys with an affiliation to Launch that they got their hands on good pro-level software. No offence intended my friend some scanners even Snap-On are crap with Chryslers - not all pro scanners are equal and Chryslers use a 'leaning' gear box software type, try a different known to be good on Chrysler diagnostic scanner. Best of luck.
#12
The TCM was pulled while the battery NEG was still connected.
Okay tonight ill remove both pos and neg terminals on the battery and clamp them together to see what happens in the morning.
I did also use a cen-tech scan tool which i honestly thought was better than the matco one. Both however gave me same results.
Okay tonight ill remove both pos and neg terminals on the battery and clamp them together to see what happens in the morning.
I did also use a cen-tech scan tool which i honestly thought was better than the matco one. Both however gave me same results.
#13
The TCM was pulled while the battery NEG was still connected.
Okay tonight ill remove both pos and neg terminals on the battery and clamp them together to see what happens in the morning.
I did also use a cen-tech scan tool which i honestly thought was better than the matco one. Both however gave me same results.
Okay tonight ill remove both pos and neg terminals on the battery and clamp them together to see what happens in the morning.
I did also use a cen-tech scan tool which i honestly thought was better than the matco one. Both however gave me same results.
The pull and clamp both cables suggestion was a stab in the dark at getting a clean boot for all three puters but you have to consider that most of the wiring from all of the car goes through the nightmare that is the 'minging' underside of the fusebox. Use that 12 hours to make sure you have a fully charged battery. Have a look under the hood one dark night to see if you can see any indication of arching.
The TCM was pulled while the battery NEG was still connected
#14
Discharging the capacitors did not change anything..
And now it does not even go into limp mode... was planning on pulling it into the garage and just taking the tranny out but couldn't even move it in limp mode.
And now it does not even go into limp mode... was planning on pulling it into the garage and just taking the tranny out but couldn't even move it in limp mode.
#15
is there a series of solenoid valves located on the valve body that operate the shifts on the Chrysler auto box like other cars. Is the valve body easily removed to check the solenoids for open circuit. Or can the solenoids be removed from below. Just wondering if fault relates to a solenoid.
#17
Continuity of circuit through the solenoid of course. If you connect up the two wires of the solenoid to a meter on resistance and find resistance is either too high or no resistance at all its knackered, open circuit. Would be interesting to get a schematic on here of how the solenoids work, how they cover and uncover fluid ways or valves.
Nice if we could get a picture on the inside of the box then so we can indicate the solenoids.
QinteQ/ftb/Chrysler Cares have you's any pictures, diagrams/schematics of these boxes.
Wonder how many gearboxes have been scrapped due to a dud solenoid.
Nice if we could get a picture on the inside of the box then so we can indicate the solenoids.
QinteQ/ftb/Chrysler Cares have you's any pictures, diagrams/schematics of these boxes.
Wonder how many gearboxes have been scrapped due to a dud solenoid.
#19
Ahh so your car does not move at all but you can hear the gears turning. Your answer might be on Youtube Chrysler Voyager Automatic Gearbox repairs no 1. But this is for a 2001 model however it doesn't say 3.3. Diesel or Petrol. Relates to the transfer gears between main hub set and the drive diff. On the video the gear on the end of the main hub is sheared off, doesn't surprise me as it doesn't look up to the job. To gain entry just remove end cover and pull at gears. See video it helps.
By the way what box is used in these Voyagers.
By the way what box is used in these Voyagers.
#20
I found 41TE Trans is in the 2.8CRD.
TFB gives good gearbox drawings at skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...=folder%2c.pdf but can't seem to open some of the micro pictures on the schematics.
There is a Solenoid test video on Youtube if you have his fancy tester. But Ohms test meter does.
Interesting fault on here relating to a limp mode caused by a wire between Gearbox and the control module for the box.
TFB gives good gearbox drawings at skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...=folder%2c.pdf but can't seem to open some of the micro pictures on the schematics.
There is a Solenoid test video on Youtube if you have his fancy tester. But Ohms test meter does.
Interesting fault on here relating to a limp mode caused by a wire between Gearbox and the control module for the box.