A couple of times over the past weeks my Chrylser Voyager engine cuts out when accelerating either from a stationary position when you have to pick up speed quickly when getting on a dual carriage way or from say 50mph to say 60 mph when you need quick acceleration to overtake.
The car is only 5 years old with low mileage.
I took it to a dealer who carried out a Health Check and it got code P1130. Fuel Rail Pressure Leakage, Fuel Rail Pressure Too High-Shut off, Fuel Rail Pressure Too Low and Fuel Rail Pressure Solenoid Open.
They recommend that Fuel injectors, rail, filter and housing be replaced which will cost almost £5,400.
They did suggest that I could start off with replacing the Fuel housing first at a cost of £400 to see if that fixes it but they could not guarantee this would work.
I can't believe that a car that is only 5 years old with low mileage needs such a drastic overhaul of the fuel system to get it working.
If anyone has encountered this before or has any suggestions to make please reply. Regards Patrick

 

Patrick just joined this evening i have a grand voyager 2.5crd 2002 and in the last week its begun to cut out intermittently at low revs maybe 2/3 times a day and very difficult to start sometimes.

So far i have been advised to change fuel filter which I have done without any improvement. I am staying away from Chrysler dealers as they seem unable to pin point faults but replace items on a trial and error basis at your very costly expense.

Have had the car on diagnostics no fault codes have come up, just took it to a supposed diesel specialist and he concluded all four injectors are gone and the high pressure fuel pump, i don't believe him.

I am in the north west UK and I am told there aren't any independent Chrysler diesel specialists, i spoke to one in Basildon who seemed to really know what the problem is but wasn't prepared to share his expertise.

 

Depending where you are, I've bought spares from, and another forum member has had injector work done by The VM Specialist in Chesterfield. 01246 455350.

 

regarding cutting out during acceleration, I would be surprised if it was anything other than the fuel filter housing. This is a known issue on the 2.8's. To confirm you need to cut the plastic line from the fuel filter to the fuel pump and splice in a section of clear plastic pump and then look for air bubbles in the fuel stream.

As for £400 to replace, that is ridiculous. Not sure what the price of the part is. But all that is involved is to remove the bottom protective tray from under the engine, remove two electrical connectors, unscrew the fuel filter, undo 2 banjo bolts and then 2 nuts that hold the filter housing to it's bracket. About 45 minutes total.

Most main dealers seem to be no better than fitters with a very limited knowledge of diagnosis. When a dealer or garage suggests replacing items (usually at great cost) the question to ask them is "what have you done to prove that part is faulty?" most of the time they will not be able to give you a straight answer as they are just guessing.

Regards
Richard

 

I recently had to fix this problem on my 2005 2.8 crd. Not only did it cut out under medium to hard acceleration, but more dangerously cutout during hard braking. It was also hard to start when cold, and pumping the primer would allow it to start.

The fault was the filter housing. The heater element inside the housing had caused the plastic electrical connector to crack, which then allowed air into the fuel system.
To check it diconnect the electrical connector towards the front of the housing and pump the primer, on the right of the housing. If fuel comes out then you need a new filter and housing kit I could only get one from the local Chrysler dealer in Wakefield and cost around £165. Also on mine the connector had electrical burn damage and was partially melted.

As Richard stated its a easy enough repair to do yourself, though you may need to do some soldering to fit the new connector if required.

I didn't get mine pluged to get a fault code, but would expect it to throw up a fuel rail/ pressure fault/leak. As there would be too much air in the mix.
The last place I would take my car to get fixed is a main dealer, they just look at the £.

C

 

Cmooredj,

I wish i had your ability i have changed break pads and discs but no more than that.

Considering the problems I am having, (see earlier post) would you think that it would be the same solution for the 2.5 2002, mines got 130,000 on the clock, I have had it for two years and done 40K in that time trouble free until now.

I'm in Liverpool so Leeds is just an hour away for me if you were to suggest any garages

 

Thanks for taking the time to reply. My local garage fitted a new fuel housing today and I just took it out for a run and the engine still cut out. I moved off from a standing position and accelerated up to past the 3 and half on the rev counter (not to technical when it comes to cars) and the engine cut. Pulled over, put it in park and started the engine and went home. Not sure if fuel filter was replaced, assume it comes with the housing. Will take it back to garage tomorrow. I did read on one web site that it could be algae in the fuel. Any other suggestions should be appreciated.

 

- we, the group have no idea what you have - CRD - petrol - etc
- I'm assuming its a 2499 cc 2001 CRD
- the 'housing' is the aluminium bit the fuel filter screws into
- it can develop a stress fracture as in millions to one
- hairline 'vacuum' leaks [Leedsman] in the fractured pipework can develop
- your desperation 'understandably' shows in your postings
- often it can just be a slack fuel filter, very often - honest !
- its been suggested by Richard & others to eliminate the spin on fuel filter first

Mine, a 2.8 CRD is a bog standard filter can with a water trap and sensor. No pump and no in 'housing' heater. My heater is under the car at a point under the drivers seat. The lift pump is negative and part of the main HP injector pump. I know that CRD's have an issue with the LP system in general, the earlier models and the 2.5's had an LP pump near the rear axle. The Mk III's and above do not. Mine is incorporated into the HP pump.

Here is the exact correct can for a VOYAGER & GRAND VOYAGER 2,8 CRD 2004-2007 all you do is spin~off the existing water trap and sensor and spin~on this new can - does your look like this ?

 

For the record my car is 09/2007 Chrysler Grand Voyager Stow and Go 2.8 diesel Exec CRD. I have had the fuel header replaced, which also included the filter. If any of you know of any indepenent garages in the south london area that have dealt with this problem before and can pin point the faulty part and repair it and not try and rip me of in the process I should be very grateful.

 

Richard [tfb] is often in that area, send him a PM !