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Old 12-04-2014, 02:43 PM
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hi ive got a 2004 grand voyager 2.5crd and the heaters are freezing! the temp gauge on goes up to 1/4 and the cooling fans intermittently come on when I start up? any help advice would be most appreciated
 
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Old 12-04-2014, 02:59 PM
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- I'm assuming its freezing at any [low/med/high] fan setting ...........
- assuming you've checked the water level
- you should see the water being pumped [yes you can] in pulses into the translucent header tank
- that temp gauge should be at just under 1/2 summer & winter
- a knackered stat is a good bet
- a stat will always break [by design] in an open position
- a stat on these cars is a pig to do, a workaround way of doing the same thing is here
- here is a whole separate thread in 'winterizing' including essential winter air dams

Have a read of the two threads and get back with questions.
the cooling fans intermittently come on when I start up?
- no idea, anyone else comment ?
 
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:04 PM
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Which fans (plural) are those "cooling fans" Radiator?
 
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Old 12-16-2014, 03:17 PM
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Comment...Emmm...Renault 5 thermostat comes to mind...
 
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:45 AM
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The workaround (stat in the upper radiator hose pipe) is a much easier and much cheaper way to fix this. I replaced the actual stat at the back of the engine - expensive and the only clear advantage is that you have an opportunity to clean out the egr valve and the egr out pipe.
 
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Old 12-19-2014, 07:55 AM
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Clearly then if the Temp. Gage does not go about mid-way there is a thermostat problem which is quite common. It is not easy to change, it is at the back of the engine on the driver's side, but can be done. I expect it would take about 6 hours the first time. It is easier if the wipers and tray are removed first to gain a little better access. You should be able to buy a thermostat on eBay although the engine distributor, JNL Engineering in Camberley, Surrey (01276 63278 - Shane Simpson) is worth considering because there are at least 2 if not more different models depending on year.
 
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Old 12-19-2014, 03:36 PM
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I can strongly advice to use the "thermostat in tube replacement trick"
In my case it was the difference between a Chrysler thermostat of €150,- + 4 hour labour €200,- is a total cost of €350,-
Versus
Renault 5 thermostat in tube €12,- and 30 minutes DIY job. is a total cost of €12,-

I tested the new situation on a -5 Celsius long trip and a +12 Celsius long highway trip and my temperature behaves perfectly well now.
Read about it here: https://www.chryslerforum.com/forum/...-broken-23454/
 
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Old 12-20-2014, 01:54 PM
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Had a view on You Tube yesterday and there is a video relating to the Voyager CRD alternative thermostat but its in a foreign language. Right enough their pointing to the green hose but instead of the Renault 5 thermostat like I've said they mention the Renault 9 thermostat. I have came across the picture of a hose fitted stat while browsing but at a loss at mo..
 
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Old 12-20-2014, 02:34 PM
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Looks like Renault 5 and 9 Stats are about the same. The 9 refers to Renault Petrol 1400cc 1981 on..
Renault 9 on left of box.
But whether 5 or 9 the stat most likely refers to the engine. Anyone got a manual on these cars so we can pinpoint if this stat is fitted in the hose.
 
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Old 12-20-2014, 02:40 PM
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Does it matter from which car the stat comes?
As long as its like ~ 43MM diameter to fit in the tube and opens at around 85-90 degrees Celsius it works, doesn't it?
 

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