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chuckron 11-14-2005 05:00 PM

2.7L problems
 
I am currently looking at buying a 2001 and up sebring. I have one real concern with these cars however. The engine. I know I want the 6, but I have heard bad things about the 2.7L, not just in this application, others as well. Apparently there are large numbers of these engines that are prone to sludeg problems. I read that this was fixed as of 2002/3 but that was only one guy.

I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions about these engines, ways to tell, ways to solve it, ways to avoid it.
I can't afford a new car, but I am looking at something with about 100k KMS, since those are the oens in my price range.

Thanks for any help

Midnight 85 11-14-2005 05:32 PM

RE: 2.7L problems
 
Here, this is some good info...


ORIGINAL: RIPSIGUY

There is nothing wrong with the design of this engine. What Chrysler failed to do was indicate that this particular vehicle/engine requires a more stringent maintence schedule, and probably should have specified synthetic oil for schedule "B" on 2.7L engines.

I have many 2nd gen Intrepids come into the shop that are RELIGIOUSLY serviced and have well over 100k on their 2.7's

I have seen a small handfull of chain guides breaking, and NO sludge. Definitely not a maintence issue there.

My point is, DCX failed to convey this to their customers... Serviced properly, the 2.7 is a fine engine. It's just that "proper" service intervals are much more stringent than most consumers are used to, or were informed of.

The newer 2.7's I see have oil coolers on them also. We all know these run hot. Hell, 190bhp from 2.7L is pretty impressive. It's just working it's ass of to do so.

I feel if you can prove you did the required oil changes, and you have a sludge problem, Chrysler should step up to the plate.
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dusterdan 11-14-2005 07:21 PM

RE: 2.7L problems
 
all i can offer is this . when you buy a used car with this engine, pull the oil pan, scape the sludge, use rtv form a gasket , forget about fac torque recs , put it back tight, change the oil and filter when it gets off color.......... ive never lost an engine since 1974 not bragging i just cant afford to

JXI101 11-15-2005 04:14 PM

RE: 2.7L problems
 
I've never lost an engine... just transmissions... All of these are great advice... Im just posting to rack up points.. you know on the side there where it says how many posts you have...

Midnight 85 11-15-2005 08:22 PM

RE: 2.7L problems
 
LOL JXI admitted to post whoring...



chuckron- If you are ready to take GREAT care of that engine, then go for it.

JXI101 11-16-2005 06:28 PM

RE: 2.7L problems
 
hey, every forum has one... and it makes the admins consider me for a mod when matt quits lol... I wouldn't have the kind of time... blah blah blah blah blah... Did anyone here know I could speak german?

DED6ESEBRING 11-17-2005 12:33 AM

RE: 2.7L problems
 
Wie gehts? Gut!

lol

When I was a Service Advisor for Chrysler, It was rare to see 2.7's in the shop for sludge problems. I had one, but that was because it was'nt taken care of. The customer bought it used from Enterprise Rental Sales (which I would never suggest doing...You can bet that the car was not kept up before the customer purchased it.) I turns out, Chrysler replaced her engine under the extended warranty she took out on it at time of purchase even though she couldnt produce oil change reciepts for the every 3,000 miles changes she did. They did it because they knew she bought it from Enterprise.

Anyway...that was in the Intrepid, which I think that engine is underpowered for that car anyway.

But now I have a question....whats the diff between the 190hp 2.7 thats in the intrepids/concordes/etc. and the 200hp 2.7 in the sebrings? Im not familiar with it....even though my new sebring has it

Midnight 85 11-17-2005 01:27 AM

RE: 2.7L problems
 
Hmmm, My 2000 Intrepid had 200 hp... I swear it did...



JXI ist die amtliche Pfostendirne des Chrysler Forum

dusterdan 11-17-2005 01:37 AM

RE: 2.7L problems
 
reason sporty versus fuel milage,200 has different dual-plenum intake manifold tuned for imprved low end torque in addition manifold has atuning valve

JXI101 11-17-2005 12:33 PM

RE: 2.7L problems
 
midnight ist ein fettsack... Ich leibe dien mutter midnight! sie macht spass in das bett!

dusterdan 11-17-2005 01:51 PM

RE: 2.7L problems
 
i m from the same place as you i only know anything about chryslers because ive owned used ones my whole life life sucks

dusterdan 11-17-2005 02:37 PM

RE: 2.7L problems
 
yes and the more mistakes i make and the more people correct me the more we all learn

dusterdan 11-17-2005 02:44 PM

RE: 2.7L problems
 
it probally does im not know it all i just love mopars

dusterdan 11-17-2005 02:52 PM

RE: 2.7L problems
 
man you are verry sucsesful

Midnight 85 11-18-2005 08:00 AM

RE: 2.7L problems
 


ORIGINAL: dusterdan

it probally does im not know it all i just love mopars
Same here, nice quad post though, lol




JXI - Das ist, jetzt wir sollte Forumraum, aufzunehmen stoppen lustig.

pylenaa 03-27-2008 09:22 PM

RE: 2.7L problems
 
[:o]I found this forum while looking for info on the 2.7 Chrysler Motor. I have a small story to tell about a 2001 Sebring that my wife and I bought for my oldest daughter, and what happened to her car.

Back in November of 2007 my daughter found a car she liked and asked me to look at it. It was very clean and had a decent price on it with only 60,000 miles, so I helped her get the coin and signed some paper work. This car came from a Dealerthat said it was well serviced and was owned buy a local person, we all know how that goes. We got a 3 month 3000 mile warranty. Well about a month ago my daughter was coming home from work and called and said the car had died while going down the road at 60 mph. She said it started back up fine but was making a terrible noise. Atow truck and was sent from my small town, and a phone call from them saying they think the engine threw a rod.

Come to find out it did throw 2 road bearings, Dealer refused to cover, said we did not do the oil changes. My daughter only put 5000 miles on car and did one oil change. Well I had my local repair shop look into fixing it and found all the problems with these 2.7 motors. They pulled the engine and called me asking me to come to the shop and see what they found. After the engine was removed they pulled the valve cover and found slug so thick, it looked like tar covering everything. Therepair shop swore they had never seen anything like this that was this bad ever before.

Well, back to the dealer I go with pictures in hand and a lawyers phone number, and also the oil pan that looked like it had something living in it out of a swamp. They produced all the service records on this car, what few they hadwhen they sold it to me it had, come to find outit was on its2nd engine![:@]It seems that the original owners thought all you do it drive them and do nothing else. The service tech told me the first engine blew at 21000 miles due to oil slug and no oil changes. The dealer agreed to split the cost with me on all repairs, so this worked out.

We ended up getting a rebuilt 2.7 with a 3 year 100,000 mile warranty for $2700, this is an updated version that had a note attached to block saying if oil is not changed every 3000 miles, warranty is void, and to use synthetic only after the first 500 mile oil change. It also said to keep all records of service for oil changes for warranty work.

From what I have learned in the the past month about this motor, is it like to have clean oil in it, and changes no more than every 2500 to 3000 miles apart. My wifes car is a good show of that to, with245,000 miles on it, and she is still driving it everyday to work.

In my eye's the 2.7 is not a bad motor, its the idiots that don't take care of them that is the problem. As far as I am concerned after having to deal with this, I am sure there were some flukes out there that had real problems with the 2.7 engine.

Oil and filter are a cheap thing to do for a car, some people just don't see it that way though. If I were to buy another 2.7 in a Chrysler I would request the valve cover be pulled or an engine camera take a look in the engine. This is my whole feeling on this motor, I would guess that 25% of the gripes are from the real world problems with the engines.

CHRYSLER TECH 10-10-2011 10:32 PM

Second Opinion: Oil Sludge: an expensive but preventable disaster


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