Just got a 2007 Aspen Limited
#1
10-31-2018, 07:42 PM
Just got a 2007 Aspen Limited
Hello Group as the title says I'm the new owner of the 07 Aspen Ltd with the 5.7l Hemi. I have owned a few Explorer V8's, Navigators, Excursions and older Suburban 2500 and wanted something upscale and not as large as the last 2 vehicles and of course wanted to drive the iconic Hemi engine. I bought this truck unseen from auction in other state so I only know what was listed. There are no problems stated but I know it is a gamble nevertheless. This is my first Aspen and haven't done as much research as I should so I am asking for some of the known issues and weaknesses of this truck.
I plan on using it as my weekend transport and occasional medium trailer tower. I plan on occasionally towing cars on a 20' auto transport trailer. How does it tow? I have towed from this trailer to 40' 5th wheels with a F250 so have experience towing just wanted to know about this model handles trailers.
Thanks in Advance!
I plan on using it as my weekend transport and occasional medium trailer tower. I plan on occasionally towing cars on a 20' auto transport trailer. How does it tow? I have towed from this trailer to 40' 5th wheels with a F250 so have experience towing just wanted to know about this model handles trailers.
Thanks in Advance!
#4
11-18-2018, 04:02 PM
I wish there was, but I haven't found one. Best bet is Durango forums, as we are basically the cousin.
Problem is that the Aspen was only made 3 yrs. To add to that, they revamped the 4.7 and 5.7 in 2009, so you have different variations of each engine in those 3 years too.
Problem is that the Aspen was only made 3 yrs. To add to that, they revamped the 4.7 and 5.7 in 2009, so you have different variations of each engine in those 3 years too.
#5
11-19-2018, 08:48 PM
Hey thanks!
So these are basically identical drivelines? I knew they were related but didn't know how much they share. In reading newcartestdrive.com and comparing the features of the Durango vs the Aspen they seem to have a lot of similiarites.
So these are basically identical drivelines? I knew they were related but didn't know how much they share. In reading newcartestdrive.com and comparing the features of the Durango vs the Aspen they seem to have a lot of similiarites.
I wish there was, but I haven't found one. Best bet is Durango forums, as we are basically the cousin.
Problem is that the Aspen was only made 3 yrs. To add to that, they revamped the 4.7 and 5.7 in 2009, so you have different variations of each engine in those 3 years too.
Problem is that the Aspen was only made 3 yrs. To add to that, they revamped the 4.7 and 5.7 in 2009, so you have different variations of each engine in those 3 years too.
#6
11-19-2018, 08:52 PM
I think the 4.7 changed in 2008 and I know the 5.7 changed in 2009.
#7
11-23-2018, 12:19 PM
Welcome to the forum. Sorry for the delayed response. Been busy. Sadly, as Rawyzf mentioned, their is not a lot of talk about the Aspen. I even found a Facebook page for an Aspen club and rarely see any post on it. The Durango forums are your best bet as most of the problems are the same.
As far as some of the "Known" issues, I can tell you the ones that I am aware of and/or have experienced along with what I know for fixing them.
1) Fuel spit back when fueling - Many have experienced this as well as myself. Known fix is a service bulletin to replace fuel filler neck. Only covers 07-08 models from what I've heard. SB # 14-001-12
2) Check fuel cap message when cap is on and tight (Code P0455 - P0457) - This is not a fuel cap issue. It is the ESIM (EVAP leak detect switch). Simple DIY fix at charcoal canister. About $35 and takes about 10-15 minutes tops to replace.
3) MDS Solenoids going out (4) total on vehicle (multiple codes P344x) - When this happens, fuel saver mode will not work and check engine light will appear. Will not pass inspection. Make sure you use the recommended oil weight. Part alone is about $100 online (was around $40). Requires removal of intake manifold to replace. Best to do all 4 at the same time if you already have it taken off. I still need to do this myself. Currently have the MDS disabled with a DiabloSport tuner.
4) Engine stalling after fueling when hot (No codes) - From my research on this (due to me having the issue), it is due to the On-board Refueling Vapor Recovery Valve which is part of the fuel tank. Meaning the whole tank needs to be replaced (about $800 for the tank alone). As much as I have found reported on this to NHTSA, I'm surprised Chrysler doesn't have a service bulletin or recall on this one.
5) Airbags (drivers & passengers) - This is part of the Takata recall. Check your VIN to make sure both of these have been replaced.
That's all I can think of at the moment.
As far as towing. The most I have towed is around 2000-2500 lbs with a small 10' flatbed (was an old motorcycle trailer). Towed without any issues. Haven't gone any bigger than that. Although I was looking at at getting a 25'+ cargo trailer at one time but no longer need it so I guess I'll never get to see how that goes.
Hope this helps.
As far as some of the "Known" issues, I can tell you the ones that I am aware of and/or have experienced along with what I know for fixing them.
1) Fuel spit back when fueling - Many have experienced this as well as myself. Known fix is a service bulletin to replace fuel filler neck. Only covers 07-08 models from what I've heard. SB # 14-001-12
2) Check fuel cap message when cap is on and tight (Code P0455 - P0457) - This is not a fuel cap issue. It is the ESIM (EVAP leak detect switch). Simple DIY fix at charcoal canister. About $35 and takes about 10-15 minutes tops to replace.
3) MDS Solenoids going out (4) total on vehicle (multiple codes P344x) - When this happens, fuel saver mode will not work and check engine light will appear. Will not pass inspection. Make sure you use the recommended oil weight. Part alone is about $100 online (was around $40). Requires removal of intake manifold to replace. Best to do all 4 at the same time if you already have it taken off. I still need to do this myself. Currently have the MDS disabled with a DiabloSport tuner.
4) Engine stalling after fueling when hot (No codes) - From my research on this (due to me having the issue), it is due to the On-board Refueling Vapor Recovery Valve which is part of the fuel tank. Meaning the whole tank needs to be replaced (about $800 for the tank alone). As much as I have found reported on this to NHTSA, I'm surprised Chrysler doesn't have a service bulletin or recall on this one.
5) Airbags (drivers & passengers) - This is part of the Takata recall. Check your VIN to make sure both of these have been replaced.
That's all I can think of at the moment.
As far as towing. The most I have towed is around 2000-2500 lbs with a small 10' flatbed (was an old motorcycle trailer). Towed without any issues. Haven't gone any bigger than that. Although I was looking at at getting a 25'+ cargo trailer at one time but no longer need it so I guess I'll never get to see how that goes.
Hope this helps.
Last edited by calamity coyote; 11-23-2018 at 12:23 PM.
#8
11-23-2018, 01:12 PM
Welcome to the forum. Sorry for the delayed response. Been busy. Sadly, as Rawyzf mentioned, their is not a lot of talk about the Aspen. I even found a Facebook page for an Aspen club and rarely see any post on it. The Durango forums are your best bet as most of the problems are the same.
As far as some of the "Known" issues, I can tell you the ones that I am aware of and/or have experienced along with what I know for fixing them.
1) Fuel spit back when fueling - Many have experienced this as well as myself. Known fix is a service bulletin to replace fuel filler neck. Only covers 07-08 models from what I've heard. SB # 14-001-12
2) Check fuel cap message when cap is on and tight (Code P0455 - P0457) - This is not a fuel cap issue. It is the ESIM (EVAP leak detect switch). Simple DIY fix at charcoal canister. About $35 and takes about 10-15 minutes tops to replace.
3) MDS Solenoids going out (4) total on vehicle (multiple codes P344x) - When this happens, fuel saver mode will not work and check engine light will appear. Will not pass inspection. Make sure you use the recommended oil weight. Part alone is about $100 online (was around $40). Requires removal of intake manifold to replace. Best to do all 4 at the same time if you already have it taken off. I still need to do this myself. Currently have the MDS disabled with a DiabloSport tuner.
4) Engine stalling after fueling when hot (No codes) - From my research on this (due to me having the issue), it is due to the On-board Refueling Vapor Recovery Valve which is part of the fuel tank. Meaning the whole tank needs to be replaced (about $800 for the tank alone). As much as I have found reported on this to NHTSA, I'm surprised Chrysler doesn't have a service bulletin or recall on this one.
5) Airbags (drivers & passengers) - This is part of the Takata recall. Check your VIN to make sure both of these have been replaced.
That's all I can think of at the moment.
As far as towing. The most I have towed is around 2000-2500 lbs with a small 10' flatbed (was an old motorcycle trailer). Towed without any issues. Haven't gone any bigger than that. Although I was looking at at getting a 25'+ cargo trailer at one time but no longer need it so I guess I'll never get to see how that goes.
Hope this helps.
As far as some of the "Known" issues, I can tell you the ones that I am aware of and/or have experienced along with what I know for fixing them.
1) Fuel spit back when fueling - Many have experienced this as well as myself. Known fix is a service bulletin to replace fuel filler neck. Only covers 07-08 models from what I've heard. SB # 14-001-12
2) Check fuel cap message when cap is on and tight (Code P0455 - P0457) - This is not a fuel cap issue. It is the ESIM (EVAP leak detect switch). Simple DIY fix at charcoal canister. About $35 and takes about 10-15 minutes tops to replace.
3) MDS Solenoids going out (4) total on vehicle (multiple codes P344x) - When this happens, fuel saver mode will not work and check engine light will appear. Will not pass inspection. Make sure you use the recommended oil weight. Part alone is about $100 online (was around $40). Requires removal of intake manifold to replace. Best to do all 4 at the same time if you already have it taken off. I still need to do this myself. Currently have the MDS disabled with a DiabloSport tuner.
4) Engine stalling after fueling when hot (No codes) - From my research on this (due to me having the issue), it is due to the On-board Refueling Vapor Recovery Valve which is part of the fuel tank. Meaning the whole tank needs to be replaced (about $800 for the tank alone). As much as I have found reported on this to NHTSA, I'm surprised Chrysler doesn't have a service bulletin or recall on this one.
5) Airbags (drivers & passengers) - This is part of the Takata recall. Check your VIN to make sure both of these have been replaced.
That's all I can think of at the moment.
As far as towing. The most I have towed is around 2000-2500 lbs with a small 10' flatbed (was an old motorcycle trailer). Towed without any issues. Haven't gone any bigger than that. Although I was looking at at getting a 25'+ cargo trailer at one time but no longer need it so I guess I'll never get to see how that goes.
Hope this helps.
#9
11-24-2018, 09:24 AM
Yeah, it makes no sense to me either. If the issue is still there on the 09's, it should still be covered.
#10
11-25-2018, 10:58 AM
Welcome to the forum. Sorry for the delayed response. Been busy. Sadly, as Rawyzf mentioned, their is not a lot of talk about the Aspen. I even found a Facebook page for an Aspen club and rarely see any post on it. The Durango forums are your best bet as most of the problems are the same.
As far as some of the "Known" issues, I can tell you the ones that I am aware of and/or have experienced along with what I know for fixing them.
1) Fuel spit back when fueling - Many have experienced this as well as myself. Known fix is a service bulletin to replace fuel filler neck. Only covers 07-08 models from what I've heard. SB # 14-001-12
2) Check fuel cap message when cap is on and tight (Code P0455 - P0457) - This is not a fuel cap issue. It is the ESIM (EVAP leak detect switch). Simple DIY fix at charcoal canister. About $35 and takes about 10-15 minutes tops to replace.
3) MDS Solenoids going out (4) total on vehicle (multiple codes P344x) - When this happens, fuel saver mode will not work and check engine light will appear. Will not pass inspection. Make sure you use the recommended oil weight. Part alone is about $100 online (was around $40). Requires removal of intake manifold to replace. Best to do all 4 at the same time if you already have it taken off. I still need to do this myself. Currently have the MDS disabled with a DiabloSport tuner.
4) Engine stalling after fueling when hot (No codes) - From my research on this (due to me having the issue), it is due to the On-board Refueling Vapor Recovery Valve which is part of the fuel tank. Meaning the whole tank needs to be replaced (about $800 for the tank alone). As much as I have found reported on this to NHTSA, I'm surprised Chrysler doesn't have a service bulletin or recall on this one.
5) Airbags (drivers & passengers) - This is part of the Takata recall. Check your VIN to make sure both of these have been replaced.
That's all I can think of at the moment.
As far as towing. The most I have towed is around 2000-2500 lbs with a small 10' flatbed (was an old motorcycle trailer). Towed without any issues. Haven't gone any bigger than that. Although I was looking at at getting a 25'+ cargo trailer at one time but no longer need it so I guess I'll never get to see how that goes.
Hope this helps.
As far as some of the "Known" issues, I can tell you the ones that I am aware of and/or have experienced along with what I know for fixing them.
1) Fuel spit back when fueling - Many have experienced this as well as myself. Known fix is a service bulletin to replace fuel filler neck. Only covers 07-08 models from what I've heard. SB # 14-001-12
2) Check fuel cap message when cap is on and tight (Code P0455 - P0457) - This is not a fuel cap issue. It is the ESIM (EVAP leak detect switch). Simple DIY fix at charcoal canister. About $35 and takes about 10-15 minutes tops to replace.
3) MDS Solenoids going out (4) total on vehicle (multiple codes P344x) - When this happens, fuel saver mode will not work and check engine light will appear. Will not pass inspection. Make sure you use the recommended oil weight. Part alone is about $100 online (was around $40). Requires removal of intake manifold to replace. Best to do all 4 at the same time if you already have it taken off. I still need to do this myself. Currently have the MDS disabled with a DiabloSport tuner.
4) Engine stalling after fueling when hot (No codes) - From my research on this (due to me having the issue), it is due to the On-board Refueling Vapor Recovery Valve which is part of the fuel tank. Meaning the whole tank needs to be replaced (about $800 for the tank alone). As much as I have found reported on this to NHTSA, I'm surprised Chrysler doesn't have a service bulletin or recall on this one.
5) Airbags (drivers & passengers) - This is part of the Takata recall. Check your VIN to make sure both of these have been replaced.
That's all I can think of at the moment.
As far as towing. The most I have towed is around 2000-2500 lbs with a small 10' flatbed (was an old motorcycle trailer). Towed without any issues. Haven't gone any bigger than that. Although I was looking at at getting a 25'+ cargo trailer at one time but no longer need it so I guess I'll never get to see how that goes.
Hope this helps.
The issues I have discovered now are the hub bearing was bad. I don't know how the previous owner drove it with that loud rubbing sound. Had dealership replace it but afterwards saw on Moog website that the factory one can be prone to water intrusion which contributes to early failure. If I had known that I would have had an Indy shop install Moog but if they were original and lasted 137k I should be okay for awhile.
Front suspension was sloppy and made noise that stabilizer bar bushings and end links cured but that I would considered normal maintenance.
Suspension seems spongy which is better than the harsh SUV ride I have experienced in other SUV's but I believe the shocks need replacing so I will search but I believe most people like Bilsteins, I just want to see for this chassis are they still recommended.
Tapping noise at startup (1 min) which because of the bad weather can't look to see if manifold leak or the notorious "Hemi" tap that I see on other non Aspen Hemi forums. Some say correct oil weight and quality filter will cure it. I know the exhaust studs break off on the 06+ Explorers 4.6l and the manifolds warp is a common issue on them but those are tight compartments and repairs are so expensive most people get used to it. I had dealership quote 19 hours to remove engine to replace them but found an Indy shop that charged 4 hrs a side to squeeze in there to replace them with my stainless steels replacement studs and Dorman exhaust manifolds.
I now just discovered a quirk in the rear heat that I will create a thread for. It blows cold overhead for a short while then warms up the air stops flowing from overhead ducts then goes through lower side duct by the passenger rear door.
I never had a full time 4wd vehicle so I am curious how it operates and if any weak points or maintenance issues with it.
I am surprised it has a neutral transfer case selection which might come in handy if I decide to tow this behind a motorhome later.
Thank you both
Last edited by rowekmr; 11-25-2018 at 11:00 AM.