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73Mike 11-17-2010 09:02 PM

2004 Power Liftgate Problem.
 
Sorry everybody. I searched on liftagate issues, and read quite a few, but nothing seems to match my problem.

I have a 2004 Pacifica with a power liftgate.

When I try to open the liftgate using any of the three options, I hear a click , but the liftgate does not unlatch. I used the emergency release to open the liftgate. Nothing appears to be jammed in the area of the latch near the liftgate side or the cargo area side. I lubricated the latch mechanism inside the liftgate and cycled it several time to make sure it opened and closed freely.

After opening the liftgate using the emergency release, the key fob and the overhead switch both work normally when attempting to close the liftgate, that is until the final latching sequence. The liftgate only partially latches. In other words, its not fully latched, but it won't open either. Even in this state of being partially latched, the liftgate will not open by any of the three options. In order to latch it fully, I have to press the liftgate firmly to engage the latch.

It seems like power is obviously getting to the rear latch assembly, but its missing the "oomph" to send the liftgate on its way when opening, and to really grab the liftgate when closing. Of course, I'm just speculating.

Any help is greatly appreciated. I have an appointment at a Chrysler Dealership on Friday, but I'd rather avoid the cost since the vehicle is no longer under warranty.

Thanks in advance,

Mike

WERX* 11-18-2010 10:37 AM

Hi Mike,
I also have this same issue on my 2004 Pac. I replaced the battery in my FOB and noticed that when I press harder on the release button the problem stopped...
Perhaps just a weak fob signal?

73Mike 11-18-2010 02:38 PM

Thanks for the reply Werx. I see what you mean, but the problem exists whether I try it from the key fob, the overhead switch or the liftgate itself.

73Mike 11-24-2010 09:29 PM

Okay, I had the power liftgate actuator replaced and it fixed the issue of the liftgate not latching or unlatching properly. In fact, the difference is night and day. But a funny thing happened along the way. Once the liftgate actuator was replaced, the liftgate wouldn't open or close as designed. In fact, there was no power to the lift motor at all. The funny thing is, the up/down motor was working perectly when I dropped it off. The Technicians seemed stumped, so we agreed that I'd take it home and have them look at it again on Monday.

Just for fun, I checked the fuse box and found a fuse named "Powered Liftgate". I popped out the fuse and nothing back there worked. Not the latch/unlatch actuator (which was just replaced and working fine) nor the up/down motion. Okay, that makes sense, no fuse, no power. But then it gets weird.

I swapped the fuse with another 40A fuse and the liftgate worked perfectly, latch/unlatch, open/close. Okay, I put the original fuse back in, and the liftgate would latch/unlatch, but it wouldn't go up or down. Could a fuse be "half bad"?

Then I went to Autozone and bought a replacement fuse, stuck it in and everything (as of now) is working fine, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

So, I'm glad it's working, and I hope it keeps working, but I have to ask, WTFO?

gitchesum 11-28-2010 01:26 AM

Mine is doing something similar.

It works 100% of the time during the warmer months, but as soon as we get a cold snap, it stops working. Does the same thing yours is doing. It unlatches, but never opens.

I haven't really looked to hard into it since it's not a necessity, but it does have my curiosity peaked.

73Mike 11-28-2010 08:12 PM

Thanks. I looked at your (I think is was your) reply to another thread. My luck ran out Friday morning. The liftgate worked great first thing (after being parked in the garage all night), then my wife did some early "Black Friday" shopping. After sitting out for a few hours, it would unlatch, but not open. So it's definitely temperature related. It seams like there is a thermal switch that shuts off the motor, possibly to prevent damage.

crawford1@mail.com 05-27-2011 11:34 AM

Mike, my 2004 pacifica is now doing the same thing. I can open it by the emergency open latch but when it closes it will not fully latch, then when I push on it it closes completely, but will not reopen unless I use the emergency latch again. Was that the same problem as yours?

Ajcalvet 10-03-2015 10:51 AM

Tailgate will not stay open
 
Hello everyone. The tailgate on my 2006 pacifica will not stay open. The key fob and the switch in the car work to open it. Once the tailgate reaches the top, it beeps and then automatically closes. You can imagine what an inconcenience this is. The tailgate door is quite heavy! I have to hold it open myself in order to place anything back there.

Anybody have any ideas as to what can fix this?

Thank you!!

busboy4 10-03-2015 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Ajcalvet (Post 91762)
Hello everyone. The tailgate on my 2006 pacifica will not stay open. The key fob and the switch in the car work to open it. Once the tailgate reaches the top, it beeps and then automatically closes. You can imagine what an inconcenience this is. The tailgate door is quite heavy! I have to hold it open myself in order to place anything back there.

Anybody have any ideas as to what can fix this?

Thank you!!

I think your liftgate supports are weak/bad. The power lift is sensing resistance and reversing, and the supports should hold the weight for you during manual operation.

NJDALE 02-13-2016 02:25 PM

Pacifica power Tailgate issues
 
I know this is an older thread but I was hoping to continue it because it has not answered my problem with my lift-gate. My car is an 04 Chrysler Pacifica. I recently purchased it and its a high mileage car so I dont know the history, like if it had gate problems previously. The lift-gate only beeps and makes a clicking noise when I use either the Key FOB or the front ceiling button. Otherwise, I have to manually unlock it from inside the trunk. I did take the inside rear panel off to inspect the lift motor but I dont know what else to look for? If I was to guess, it "looks" like the motor is attempting to move when I hit the key FOB and the gate is open, however shouldint the gate try to close at that point if the motor was working? Is it more likely to be the power liftgate actuator that is the problem or the motor itself? Is there any other things I could be missing? I am going to risk getting either a used motor OR a used actuator on Ebay and install myself if an average DIY'er can handle it. The new parts at Chrysler are WAY too much $. They quoted me between 5-600$ for the motor which they said only comes complete with the slide rail. Thanks for any help you can offer!

NJSteve 02-15-2016 11:07 AM

Power Liftgate problem
 
Hey NJDale, after reading through this thread and seeing your post, I'm betting the issue is the weather! I also have a 2004 Pacifica, live in NJ (South Jersey), and have been experiencing the same freezing temps that you have over the past few days. This morning, my lift gate started doing exactly the same thing yours is doing (won't latch or unlatch regardless of the automatic method used). The only way I get it to unlatch is to use a screwdriver manually.

After today, the rest of the week is going to be warm so I'm very curious to see if it starts working again.

NJDALE 02-16-2016 11:56 AM

Steve, let me know if you come up with anything. I have only had my Pacifica for two months and its been cold so I dont know if the problem is weather/temp related. Today, its almost 60 degrees out and it makes no difference with the gate. Regardless if the temperature is the reason, Im gonna have to fix it because I need my trunk space year round. I just hope the problem is the actuator and not the liftgate motor itself since I think thats a cheaper repair.

Bodavis 02-23-2016 08:30 PM

I had a similar problem. Gate wouldn't operate or stay up in cold weather. It was the struts - I guess they leak over time and then the gas contracts in the cold. I bought a pair of new ones on Amazon. Took about 10 minutes to pop them in. Works like new.


NJDALE 02-24-2016 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Bodavis (Post 94273)
I had a similar problem. Gate wouldn't operate or stay up in cold weather. It was the struts - I guess they leak over time and then the gas contracts in the cold. I bought a pair of new ones on Amazon. Took about 10 minutes to pop them in. Works like new.

Amazon.com: Qty (2) StrongArm 6154 CHRYSLER Pacifica 2005 To 2008 Liftgate Tailgate Hatch Lift Supports Struts Springs Damper: Automotive

Bodavis, trust me when I say my gate problem has nothing to do with my struts which support the gate. That would of been an easy fix to figure out and repair, but when I open my gate manually, it supports it's own weight just fine, although it will not even attempt to close on its own after I open it which should be a tell tale sign that the problem is the gate motor itself. Its either the door motor or the actuator locking motor that makes a clicking sound. I am just trying to confirm that with an actual mechanic before I spend over a hundred bucks on the motor. I have searched every internet thread out there but I just cant seem to get a straight answer for this.

NJSteve 05-24-2016 07:01 PM

Problem found... now I need a fix
 
Well, the cold was not the issue. I pulled out the lock actuator and opened up the unit. Once I did, the intense burning smell immediately told me what the problem was. The little motor inside (RS-385PH) was fried.
Now, I'm trying to find a replacement and, to my surprise, it's impossible to find!!! There are a bunch of rs-385ph but none have the worm gear needed.

So frustrated.

hocus 05-24-2016 09:43 PM

Yes its pretty frustrating. The only way is get one is by getting it from a salvage yard just make sure its working properly.


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