Replaced timing belt and water pump.....this is the outcome....what's wrong? (video)
 

Ok so my water pump went out....replaced that and the timing belt...got everything put back together for the 3rd time in 4 days. Well right now it's taken apart like you see in the video.....So yeah, my dad said that he would do the timing belt for me since I hadn't done one before....that's the only thing I haven't had to do on this engine until now....my dad has been working on cars since he was 17 just so you have an idea....anyways, I trusted him when he said everything was good, So I started it and this is what happens. Are the valves bent or is the timing off? Oh and the first time I heard it make this noise I automatically assumed the starter had some new magic tricks lol....so I replaced the started also. And this is where I'm stuck at now. Any and all help/input is greatly appreciated.
http://vid483.photobucket.com/albums...psfaw2900e.mp4

Does the engine turn by hand ? If not timing would be suspect. Pistons WILL hit the valves if not timed properly.
Is there a chance there is a battery or ground cable not connected, or battery low on charge ? Poor connection could cause the starter to attempt to pull in but not enough power to crank the engine.
Last, it is NOT a good idea to run the engine with out coolant even for a brief second. Water pump seal is cooled and lubricated by coolant. Run dry will damage of destroy it quickly. May not leak at first but it is a good bet it wont last but a few hundred miles.

all my connections are good as far as ground and power, ive got an extremely loud stereo....8000 watts, three 18's in a c pillar wall so ive got the big 4 in 4/0 welding wire for my grounds and power from my alternator, ive got a 240 amp mechman high output alternator that charges at 14.5v at idle and 5 agm batteries.....i got everything put back together and i got the timing marks to line up exactly where they should be, im thinking my batteries got drained a little to much because in the mix of all this i was trying to adjust my amps lol....so im about to put my harmonic balancer on and put my serpentine belt on and see what it does....ill post an update here shortly

Ok so I ended up blowing a head gasket....So my next question is....since the 300 and the pacifica share the same engine can I get away with buying the head gasket set for the 300 because it's roughly $65 and the one for my pacifica is anywhere from $100-$300 depending on which gasket set you get. If the engines are identical then why is the 300's gasket set considerably cheaper than the one for the pacifica?


nevermind I just realized that I have to by the vin......well I did a motor swap from an 05 pacifica. so does it still matter about the vin number since they're the same engine? Do I need to match the numbers on the motor?

ummm have you ever seen a head gasket? is MLS Multi Layer Steel 3 layers of steal to hold back 200 Lbs of compression now common misconception is a I blew a head gasket mmm no you dont you warp a head first before you would blow through 3 layers of steal. Also check the thermostat for being stretched if you over heated it.

To be 100% no I have not seen a head gasket yet...when I started my car it had white smoke pouring out the exhaust....it was really thick also.....so do I need to buy the whole rebuild kit with the valves and all the gaskets?
Head Gasket Set Exhaust & Intake Engine Guides Valves Fits 03 06 SOHC 24v | eBay
Is this the one I should get?l..........

More likely the Lower Intake Mainfold Gasket is leaking coolant into an intake port...........

That's alot better than the head gaskets lol....so if I replace the lower and upper intake gaskets everything should be fine after that right?

Good chance that would cure it. Didn't consider hydro lock in your original issue but it makes sense. FWIW OEM Lower Intake gaskets strongly recommended.
LIM Gasket -- OE recommended - Chrysler 300M Enthusiasts Club

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Guess it was more than a water pump job and didnt turn by hand when the belt was installed.....

Lol most definitely!....right now i have the new piston ready to be put in, i also have the old head off and the new One ready to install aside from swapping the crankshaft, but im about to run to the parts store ro get a new one real quick so i can get everything put back together, i also got new head gaskets....this is my first time being this far into the engine, and its quite the adventure haha....but so far everything has gone smooth

Be Very Careful about Head Gaskets. There is a difference between the Right and Left bank gasket. If incorrectly installed overheating will be an issue.
Just to be clear, Alternator is on the Left Bank (from the video) #2,#4 &#6
Right Bank is #1,#3,#5

Oh yes lol, thank you for the info, very much appreciated! One of the bolts that holds the connecting rod cover stripped out so i had to drill the head of the bolt off, and i bent the cover ptetty bad because i had to pry it off because the washer thats on the head was still hanging on lol, and now both bolts for the connecting rod with the bad piston stripped out also, so i had to drill those out, and right now im stuck because of the way the bolt is i couldn't drill all of it out like your supposed to so now i have to figure out how to get it separated, just figured I'd give everyone an update of my adventure lol, i hope i can get it done tomorrow but its supposed to snow in kansas tomorrow which is where i live lol

So in the process of taking the piston out the two bolts for the connecting rod cap stripped out so i drilled them out and in the process of doing that i drilled through the bearing and took out a huge chunk of the journal on the crankshaft, is there something i can use to fill in the chunk that i took out with the drill bit? Or did i just screw myself completely? It took me 6 months to get this pacifica up and running and doing an engine swap and grt all the kinks worked out, ive drove it for about the past three months and now all of this happened because at first it started out being the water pump, then. I found the hole in the piston because i snapped a rocker arm bolt off in the head and tried.drilling it out and completely screwed that up so i replaced the head, which brings me to where im at now. If i have to replace the crankshaft i might as well do another engine swap right? If that's the case i think im just going to sell it as is wirh no engine and say screw it and try and find another car thats not a chrysler with a 3.5l

Kind of screwed, no way to repair crank, must be replaced.

Yep thats what i was thinking.... I havent decided what im going to do yet....what would you do firem if you were in my situation? Cause i can get a used engine from the junkyard for $180 but its not guaranteed to run, and i can get a 1 year warranty but i can only trade it in for another engine, they wont give me my money back

Easy to spend someone else's money but, How is the rest of the vehicle ?
Suspension, Trans, Tires & Brakes, Body & interior? Only you know if it is worth the swap.
$180 is cheap for a 3.5, usually go from $ 600-$1500 from what I have seen.
I am not totally up to speed with Pacifica's but 04 may be different from 05 & 06 engines. (3.5's) and the 3.5 used in the LH cars was also a little different. Not sure what but different ID in the VIN means something. Sometimes it is just bolt on stuff that can be transferred.
Cheap yard engine with a warranty I would expect it to run. Swap in your fresh water pump & belt, maybe pop the pan and look at the bearings.
If it was a 300M I would probably jump at that engine.
Example 99-01 300M engine different from 02-04. Swapping a cam drive, flex plate/flywheel and a few other items will make them work.

Lol very true ha.....on the pacifica's the 3.5 is the same from 04-06....yeah ive seen them on ebay for $600-$1300....yeah i agree $180 is dirt cheap for a used engine, do you think I'll have issues with that journal? Im thinking it's going to knock.....whats your opinion on it? Oh and the interior is flawless aside from a few tears in the drivers seat from normal wear because i have leather interior, but the other seats and the carpet look brand new, and ive got aftermarket 20's for the rims and tires. The body is also in excellent condition with a few little dents about the size of a dime. I think it would be worth the $180 for a used engine, i paid $600 for the car, i talked the guy down from $1000 and i found the engine thats in it now for $500 and talked that guy down to $300 and he never seperated the tranny from it cause he thought i wasnt going to come get it. And i tried contacting him to give it back and he never got ahold of me so i got the tranny for free lol, and i already had the rims and tires from my other pacifica...so $900 for it and its the limited which is the fully loaded one

Looks to me like the timing belt was not installed properly causing the valves to contact the piston breaking them apart...

Crank in picture is junk, will tear up bearings instantly.
Guess your going to swap an engine.

Lmao yeah that's what i was thinking lol.....yeah I'm hist going to do another engine swap and drive it for a few months and then sell it