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mshgturner 08-18-2007 07:13 PM

2001 Stalling
 
My 2001 and 1 stalls after driving at high speed. It seems worse when it is hot out ... but still happens even when it is cool out.It occuresafter I have beenrunning and comming to a stop. Dosn'tseem to happen even if I am sitting in traffic idleing. The car runs fine at speed but stalls out when comming to a stop once you put the cluch in and the RMP drop below 1000. Been having the issue for a while .. used to only happen occationally but now it is happening all of the time.. I haven't gotten any error codes before this week and have had it to the dealer several times and of course they can never find the problem For the first time ever the check engine light came on with a 1391 error code... which I believe that it is not seeing the CAM or the crank signals all of the time....not sure if this is the issue or that when I stalled and the engine stoped.... that caused the code. Any suggestions???

rjsmith 11-08-2007 07:31 PM

RE: 2001 Stalling
 
My 2003 PT limited 5 speed is doing the exact same thing I replaced the Cam sensor but that did'nt work. I'm gonna change the Crank Sensor, PCV and EGR.

THIS IS A PROBLEM CHRYSLER NEEDS TO ADDRESS!!!

THERE ARE SO MANY OF US OUT HERE WITH THE SAME ISSUE IT MUST BE A COMMON PROBLEM.

C'MON CHRYSLER DO SOMETHING!

I USED TO LOVE MY PT NOW I HATE IT...

moe 11-08-2007 08:07 PM

RE: 2001 Stalling
 
yes thats the code interm.loss of cam or crank sensor.i would put the crank sensor in only after you check the wiring.do a wiggle test on the harness.if nothing replace the sensor.the older pcms can't tell which sensor is bad thats why it throws the code for both.turn your ign key on and offthree times and leave the key on after third time and read the codes it says on the dash cluster...p0? moe

rjsmith 11-19-2007 08:45 PM

RE: 2001 Stalling
 
I don't get any sensor codes with the three time start/off key method.

I just completed a wiring check and a replacement of both the crank sensor and the cam sensor. The cam sensor did not include a new magnet however. The crank sensor was a tight fit in the block so I might try a mopar one, but I doubt it will do much good.

After driving at speed and pushing in the clutch the PT still drops RPMs to 500 and the stalls about 1/2 the time.

I'm desparate, any more ideas?



CHRYSLER TECH 11-20-2007 12:20 AM

RE: 2001 Stalling
 
have u taken it to the dealer to have the latest software installed on the computers?

moe 11-20-2007 07:58 AM

RE: 2001 Stalling
 
have you looked at your throttle body? could just need to be cleaned out.moe

WYOCHIMNEYSWEEP 11-20-2007 09:03 AM

RE: 2001 Stalling
 
iac sticking?

rjsmith 11-20-2007 07:13 PM

RE: 2001 Stalling
 
I fear I'm going to have to check it into the dealer.

I've had a bad and expensive history with our local dealers. It took them four attempts to fix a simple fan relay and they never have fixed the squeaking belt. I just can't afford for them to screw me with 1000s of dollars in repair costs.

What is the "iac"?

I'll clean the throttle body tonight.


Should the cam sensor and crank sensor be coated in oil? both were when I removed them.

Thanks for all the feedback guys.

rjsmith 11-20-2007 07:23 PM

RE: 2001 Stalling
 
Oh one more thing when I put in the crank sensor, it was in the front of the block and very difficult to get in and out. It seemed like it was slightly too large. I have since purchased a Mopar part.

rjsmith 11-20-2007 09:18 PM

RE: 2001 Stalling
 
Here is a picture of the crank sensor I just removed. Note the oil, this was only in the PT for two days. The same oil is on the cam sensor, is this normal?

I've heard of wildly high oil pressure on some PTs I did'nt know if that might be the cause, but then again oil on the sensors may be normal.

Thanks for what ever imput you guys have.
Rich

rjsmith 11-20-2007 09:19 PM

RE: 2001 Stalling
 
picture

rjsmith 11-23-2007 08:52 AM

RE: 2001 Stalling
 
Anyone ever change one of these? Do they always have oil on them?

pulpjava 09-15-2008 07:23 AM

RE: 2001 Stalling
 
This sounds strange, but when I had this problem, I disconnected the battery for a day. It seemed to have reset the computer or something, and the problem went away. I wrote about it here:

https://www.chryslerforum.com/m_2074..._/tm.htm#20749

I'd love to know if a similar approach helped you.

-Cameron McKenzie

chiefpt 09-30-2008 09:54 AM

RE: 2001 Stalling
 
2003 PT Cruiser 5 spd Stalled at stop and RMP drop to 500, I fixed the problem

1- replaced cam and crank sensors (@ $60.00 for both)
2- replaced spart plug Champion #7570 (@ $20.00)
3- replaced mopar spart plug wires
4- cleaned throttle body
5- spay using CRC electronic cleaner (@ $6.00) Intake Air Temperature sensor.

Gook Luck !

troymaclure 03-12-2009 05:27 PM

Well I found out where the crank sensor is on a 2001 pt. cruiser limited with a 5 speed transmission , its right above the oil filter in the block on the firewall side.I had the misfortune of having this sensor break off at the block and spent several hours trying to drill a hole in it to put an easy out in and retract it , finally it came out . It was soaked with oil right up to the wiring connector . This means the sensor was leaking and taking on oil so it had to be cracked , it would shut off the hotter the vehicle got and more frequent. The cost of the part was around 100.00 the labor was free. This has solved my stalling issue . Now I found out I have a leaking back shock. Oh well an easy fix .

jacrosby 08-15-2009 04:17 PM

Same issue-Stalling at low RPM
 
I have a 2001 PT that stalls when the RPM is below 1000. It has 116K, and it just started this. Runs great otherwise. I've done new plugs, Wires, air filter, PCV value and line, camshaft sensor, and spray alot of cleaner into the throttle body. Not sure where to go from here. Suggestions would be soooo welcome!

supra92 09-09-2009 07:21 PM

Same problem here 2001 touring I replace the crank sensor and only last 2 weeks
later i replace the crank and cam sensor at the same time i notice the midle wire in the 3 pin plug was broken
i resolder the wire and no more problems
if the computer counts 20 errors that can not see the signal , it will shut donw the vehicle and give you errror 1391

check your wiring pull the calbes one by one

good luck

jacrosby 09-10-2009 06:54 AM

At last I fixed it. It was the IAC, idle air control. It will cost you $90. Tires Plus want $319 for it. the job takes 15 min. Anyone can do.

adrielsmith90 10-09-2009 04:30 AM

I am also facing the same problem from last 6 months but couldn't find the solutions to it.If you get any remedies for it please let me know.

lovely09 10-17-2009 03:37 AM

Not sure with this but it might help a bit.I hope so.The error code 1390 says the relationship between the crank and cam signal is not good.It suggests to me that the crank signal is not strong.The sensor is just behind the generator, above the oil filter attached to the block.

ali22 10-22-2009 02:56 AM

This a common problem that every Chrysler customer is suffering.The company should do something regarding this.But for mean while you can go and meet the dealer of this car compny.He might help you.

matt8114 11-20-2009 01:55 PM

sounds like a faulty idle air control valve that fits on the inlet manifold

lovely09 11-26-2009 07:11 AM

The P1391 says that one signal or the other (there are two signals) that come from an electronic sensor is disappearing momentarily at least 20 times in trip, during two consecutive trips.It suggests that either the sensor or its wiring or the engine part that the sensor observes is in some way faultly.It suggests that the wires to the sensor or the part,or the sensor itself could be faulty and might be identified by visual inspection or testing with an electronic test device.The sensors are needed to time the sparking of the spark plugs and the injection of fuel.
In and of itself it is not of great concern until the signal it totally lost,in which case the engine will not run.So to me it would mean to be aware that this is happening and if the engine becomes notably losing its power or momentarily jerking that you need to find out which signal is missing and why because it may soon stop running.

DonKneerlyLor 12-12-2009 02:46 PM

2001 Stalling
 
my 07 rincon 680 is stalling too.....mine mosty stalls when shiffting from forword to rev or opp. i hear that there is a problem with the oil draining off the torque converter. some say that i should use 0w40 in it????
feed back would be great.
thank-you,
matt

dcotter0579 12-12-2009 06:44 PM

Do NOT, repeat, do NOT put anything in the transmission (torque converter) other than the fluid recommended by the manufacturer.


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