2001 T & C front blower doesn't work
I have a 2001 town and country which the blower motor stopped working on it a little over a month ago. The van has the automated temperature control. The back blower still works, but the front blower won't come on at any speed. I have checked the fuses and I tried replacing the blower relay. I hooked the battery up to the blower directly and it does spin. My final step was to purchase a new temperature control module off of ebay, but the results I have received from replacing the digital display are exactly the same. My next guess is the blower motor resister block. But all the post I have read and info I've received from the Chrysler parts counter says typically the fan will run when the resistor goes out, it just won'toperate onlower speeds. My thought is that rule may only apply to non-automated systems, since the blower speed seems to be more variable on the automated version.
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RE: 2001 T & C front blower doesn't work
Update, I finally broke down and purchased a new blower motor resister from the Chrysler dealer. The parts guy agreed that was probably my best bet in fixing the problem. I relaced the resister and still have been getting the same results. Is there anything else in that circuit besides the fuse, relay, blower, resistor, and digital readout that could be bad? My only guess now is wiring, but that seems highly unlikely.
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RE: 2001 T & C front blower doesn't work
go to the blower relay and tae it up use a jumper wire and jump across pin 30 and 87 then start teh van up see if it will work then if so then u could have a front controller issue or IPM issue.
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I have an 01 Town & Country (with Auto Temp Control) and the front blower doesn't work (rear unit works fine). When I took the resistor out to replace it I notice the 4 prong pigtail looked like it had gotten hot and melted. I drove up to Autozone and tried a new resistor but it still doesn't work. Chrysler tells me the pigtail is not available and I haven't found a salvage yard yet that has that pigtail. I'm guessing this is a common issue with the Auto Temp Control units.
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Originally Posted by gball60
(Post 57886)
I have an 01 Town & Country (with Auto Temp Control) and the front blower doesn't work (rear unit works fine). When I took the resistor out to replace it I notice the 4 prong pigtail looked like it had gotten hot and melted. I drove up to Autozone and tried a new resistor but it still doesn't work. Chrysler tells me the pigtail is not available and I haven't found a salvage yard yet that has that pigtail. I'm guessing this is a common issue with the Auto Temp Control units.
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Raptor07
You are correct. That is not what I have. |
I have a 2004 Chrysler town and country with Automatic Temperature Control. For the last year the A/C and heater were not working all the time. You would be driving and the A/C would work for different lengths of time then it would stop working and then come on again. Finally the unit stopped blowing all together. I read several post and got advice and was told to change the blower motor resistor. That was easy enough. I followed the directions and took the negative terminal off the battery, replaced the resistor behind the glove box hooked the battery back up and nothing. The unit still does not work on heat or A/C. Could it be the relay switch located in the fuse box? Don't know what to do please help anyone.
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Originally Posted by kmcross1972
(Post 58212)
I have a 2004 Chrysler town and country with Automatic Temperature Control. For the last year the A/C and heater were not working all the time. You would be driving and the A/C would work for different lengths of time then it would stop working and then come on again. Finally the unit stopped blowing all together. I read several post and got advice and was told to change the blower motor resistor. That was easy enough. I followed the directions and took the negative terminal off the battery, replaced the resistor behind the glove box hooked the battery back up and nothing. The unit still does not work on heat or A/C. Could it be the relay switch located in the fuse box? Don't know what to do please help anyone.
Kmcross1972 post is entered three times on this forum on three active threads. Disregard this post. Instead go here: https://www.chryslerforum.com/forum/...-heater-16697/ |
Blower not working 01 T&C
Originally Posted by Raptor 07
(Post 58228)
Kmcross1972 post is entered three times on this forum on three active threads. Disregard this post. Instead go here: https://www.chryslerforum.com/forum/...-heater-16697/
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see what u are missing at the blower motor power or ground
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I have now isolated the problem to the blower resistor. This resistor is different and more expensive for the ATC version. ~$48 at Rockauto.com.
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I ordered the "resistor" at Rockauto.com, for $48 including shipping, plugged it in and the blower is fixed (Dorman part# 973027). By the way, the "resistor" is not a resistor, it is a power transistor, and that big aluminum thingie sticking into the plenum air flow is just a huge heat sink for the transistor. The transistor is much more efficient than the old resistor designs, since it is modulating the 12 volts with high frequency pulses, instead of just throwing away wattage with a hot resistor lowering the voltage below 12 volts for the lower speeds.
It is probably a MOSFET transistor, just guessing. And there is a lot of support electronics on a small circuit board inside the assembly. Easily $48 of content, which is why it costs more everywhere else including Advanced Auto ~$71, or $128 elsewhere on line. |
Originally Posted by vonoretn
(Post 60146)
I ordered the "resistor" at Rockauto.com, for $48 including shipping, plugged it in and the blower is fixed (Dorman part# 973027). By the way, the "resistor" is not a resistor, it is a power transistor, and that big aluminum thingie sticking into the plenum air flow is just a huge heat sink for the transistor. The transistor is much more efficient than the old resistor designs, since it is modulating the 12 volts with high frequency pulses, instead of just throwing away wattage with a hot resistor lowering the voltage below 12 volts for the lower speeds.
It is probably a MOSFET transistor, just guessing. And there is a lot of support electronics on a small circuit board inside the assembly. Easily $48 of content, which is why it costs more everywhere else including Advanced Auto ~$71, or $128 elsewhere on line. |
Originally Posted by Raptor 07
(Post 60181)
Yup, correct but has it worked out any better than the resistor? I've read many posts concerning bad blower controllers on several forums and elsewhere. I'd bet if the two were compared the reliability would be the same dismal result. New isn't always better as anyone who has dealt with electrical systems on these vans can attest to. Lot to be said for the days of electro-mechanical relays.
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Similar situation with the radiator cooling fan "relay". They can't handle the heat. Both of these components are money makers for Chrysler Corp.
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Chrysler does not make parts they send out schematics to people that make them .
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Originally Posted by CHRYSLER TECH
(Post 60224)
Chrysler does not make parts they send out schematics to people that make them .
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Having worked at as a production design engineer as a career, I would guess that it wasn't the engineer who underdesigned it, it was purchasing who told the engineer that you aren't building a tank, you don't need military heat standards for that part, save a dollar. They overviewed all of our decisions, searching for thrifting actions, that was their job. We spent a significant part of our time justifying design decisions based on testing data and projected lifespans based on similar part history.
In defense of purchasing, if you let system engineers have everything they want, you would have a more expensive car, that might motivate a prospective customer to buy a Japanese or Korean car instead. Note that neither the Japanese or Koreans have a national defense budget to pay out of their corporate and individual taxes, so they can make things cheaper. Note that we have decided to be their national defense and we pay for it out of our taxes, and we will not allow them to go nuclear. How long has WWII and the Korean wars been over, and how well does this policy serve American manufacturing? Huh oh, now I have gone political. When the old resistors failed, usually the failure mode was to lose one blower speed at a time, as the individual resistors failed, not all blower speeds as occurs with the power transistor design. From a customers perspective, the resistor design was a better failure mode. But that evokes a similar long conversation on how important saving 2 amps on medium blower speed is because it allows a smaller, less expensive alternator. You can also use a low current switch to control the blower with the transistor, an second cost savings. The transistor "resistor" that I just replaced had gone 110,000 miles, probably that was within the design target of the part, at the time. That mileage target constantly moves up. You should note that Japanese, European and Korean cars have similar issues, as discussed on similar forums. |
Correct part failures are built into the cost of the product any way there is a thresh hold that if a failure rate is under this amount they are ok with it. If it goes over then they change things around because well hate to tell a bunch of people this but that is capitalism and how it works. They are out to sale a product and make the most out of it with also being competitive in the marketplace. GO start up a business and see for yourself how basic economics play out.
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No front blower fan on my 2002 t&c either with auto climate control that keeps delayi
Originally Posted by drolds
(Post 20466)
I have a 2001 town and country which the blower motor stopped working on it a little over a month ago. The van has the automated temperature control. The back blower still works, but the front blower won't come on at any speed. I have checked the fuses and I tried replacing the blower relay. I hooked the battery up to the blower directly and it does spin. My final step was to purchase a new temperature control module off of ebay, but the results I have received from replacing the digital display are exactly the same. My next guess is the blower motor resister block. But all the post I have read and info I've received from the Chrysler parts counter says typically the fan will run when the resistor goes out, it just won'toperate onlower speeds. My thought is that rule may only apply to non-automated systems, since the blower speed seems to be more variable on the automated version.
Any suggestions would help, I'm running out of options here. |
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