Ceramic or Semi Metallic Pads
I will be doing some brake work soon on my 07 Chrysler Town and Country and I know the semi metallic pads are OE on these 4th gen vans but curious if anyone else has went with ceramics and liked them? I have done a little research and the only con of the ceramics was that when cold they dont bite in good, I live in New Hampshire so good braking through the Winter months is important to me and my family. What is your view between these pads?
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I'd stick with the specified brake pads if I were you. Ceramic pads aren't really for this (GV) type of vehicle. Also, if you have an accident and the investigators discover non-standard brake pads, your insurance could be invalid, leaving you wide open personally for any claim on you.
Do this one by the book... Leedsman. |
Originally Posted by Hodges710
(Post 81395)
I will be doing some brake work soon on my 07 Chrysler Town and Country and I know the semi metallic pads are OE on these 4th gen vans but curious if anyone else has went with ceramics and liked them? I have done a little research and the only con of the ceramics was that when cold they dont bite in good, I live in New Hampshire so good braking through the Winter months is important to me and my family. What is your view between these pads?
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Thanks for the 2 replies, I have replaced these warn out pads with the OE semi metallics. I'm all for safety when it includes my family & self. On another note, I wish these front calipers were the 2 piston type just from personal experience with other vehicles that had them, they bite so much better.
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Originally Posted by Hodges710
(Post 81603)
Thanks for the 2 replies, I have replaced these warn out pads with the OE semi metallics. I'm all for safety when it includes my family & self. On another note, I wish these front calipers were the 2 piston type just from personal experience with other vehicles that had them, they bite so much better.
I'd hoped that Willwood or Baer would have a kit unfortunately, because of the hub carriers and calliper design, there's really not a great deal that can be done as far as upgrading. |
Too much misinformation in this thread to correct in one sitting...
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Originally Posted by 15951a\
(Post 81793)
Too much misinformation in this thread to correct in one sitting...
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Originally Posted by 15951a\
(Post 81793)
Too much misinformation in this thread to correct in one sitting...
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Here's the short version:
1. On ceramics not "biting in good" Modern ceramic pads are a great product. They brake just as well as semi-metallic pads, but without the dusting. I have them on all four wheels on an Aspen SUV, and have been nothing but pleased. They are rougher on rotors, but last a long time. They are OEM pads on many, many vehicles, and for good reason. 2. On ceramics not being for a certain type of vehicle Ceramic pads are comparable to semi-metallic pads, and will work well in nearly any daily driver application. 3. On ceramics requiring a "warm up period" Not in practice in most cases. I've never had this problem. I drive both vehicles I own (both have ceramic pads) in the dead of winter, and they stop as advertised right out of the driveway. 4. On Inspector Gadget finding non-standard brake pads after an accident Most shops use preferred brands, not OEM brands. Even dealers use non-OEM brake pads, and it makes little difference. There are many aftermarket pads that are better than OEM pads. There is nothing illegal or insurance-endangering about using a good non-OEM brake pad. Clearly, based on the posts here, some disagree with the above. I've been choosing and changing my own brakes for awhile now, and have nothing but positive things to say about using ceramic pads. YMMV -- just a counterpoint to consider. If you are more comfortable using OEM pads, then go for it. |
Originally Posted by 15951a\
(Post 81813)
Here's the short version:
1. On ceramics not "biting in good" Modern ceramic pads are a great product. They brake just as well as semi-metallic pads, but without the dusting. I have them on all four wheels on an Aspen SUV, and have been nothing but pleased. They are rougher on rotors, but last a long time. They are OEM pads on many, many vehicles, and for good reason. 2. On ceramics not being for a certain type of vehicle Ceramic pads are comparable to semi-metallic pads, and will work well in nearly any daily driver application. 3. On ceramics requiring a "warm up period" Not in practice in most cases. I've never had this problem. I drive both vehicles I own (both have ceramic pads) in the dead of winter, and they stop as advertised right out of the driveway. 4. On Inspector Gadget finding non-standard brake pads after an accident Most shops use preferred brands, not OEM brands. Even dealers use non-OEM brake pads, and it makes little difference. There are many aftermarket pads that are better than OEM pads. There is nothing illegal or insurance-endangering about using a good non-OEM brake pad. Clearly, based on the posts here, some disagree with the above. I've been choosing and changing my own brakes for awhile now, and have nothing but positive things to say about using ceramic pads. YMMV -- just a counterpoint to consider. If you are more comfortable using OEM pads, then go for it. Even withe the new stuff I tend training courses on and love them in most cases. As i said in the earlier post, these semi metallics are working great. Thanks again for your 2 cents |
I find the foot brake on my GV adequate for the job. I've owned over 100 cars various in my time and have the experience to say.
The braking problem on GVs is NOT the footbrake. The braking problem on GV is the HANDBRAKE. Let us direct our energies to the real problem here. Leedsman. |
Absolutely
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Originally Posted by Leedsman
(Post 81823)
I find the foot brake on my GV adequate for the job. I've owned over 100 cars various in my time and have the experience to say.
The braking problem on GVs is NOT the footbrake. The braking problem on GV is the HANDBRAKE. Let us direct our energies to the real problem here. Leedsman. |
Just a thought; has anyone come across a supplier of hand-brake shoes for the GV that are soft and high-friction? I know there is an australian company doing them but it seems a long way to go just for brake shoes. Although it just scraped through the MOT, I'm still not too happy with the handbrake situation on GV.
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To be accurate, and after researching, it DOES appear there are footbrake problems on later GVs, about 2009 onwards.
These include stupendous wear on brake pads, vibrations, and extremely hot wheels. It appears that in the US there are class-action lawsuits against Daimler-Chrysler. (In UK these are called group-action). Oh dear. Leedsman. |
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