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harrysaimbhi 02-22-2010 02:42 AM

Clutch problems
 
Have just had my clutch replaced, drove the car around and was fine, tried moving it a few days later and the gears dont go in, does the clutch need bleeding, if so anyone have any ideas on how to?
It is a 2.5 crd Diesel 2003

I wonder 02-23-2010 06:35 AM

AFAIK, you have a cable operating clutch.
so, no bleeding.

possibly, the clutch plate got sticky and wouldn't release from the flywheel. try changing gears while the engine is OFF and the car standing still.
if that goes without problems, try starting the car with your clutch pedal depressed and in 2nd gear.
maybe the car will try to move forward a bit, but try to drive it for a while (no changing gears, just accelerate-decelerate, ude brakes).
that should release the clutch plate.

harrysaimbhi 02-24-2010 02:41 AM

That probably explains why i could not find a bleed nipple.
Gears go in fine when engine is off, also tried putting in 2nd gear, depressing clutch then starting it, the car starts moving as there is no clutch....
I will try again tonight, and drive it for a while to see if it does release the clutch plate...
Strange thing is the clutch is extremely light now, feels more like pressing a accelarator pedal?

I wonder 02-24-2010 08:40 AM

sorry, maybe I did not express myself right.

test: 2nd gear, press the clutch pedal all the way down and start the engine.
does it feel like the car wants to go forward (clutch still pressed all the way down)?
when you start to release the pedal, how long before the the car starts to move? half way to the top? closer to the bottom or closer to the top of the clutch pedal travel?

clutch cable can be adjusted.
try to find out which oil is in your gearbox.

harrysaimbhi 02-25-2010 05:44 AM

Yes, Car off - in 2nd gear, clutch pressed in - start the car and the car wants to start moving although the clutch is in.
Taking foot of the clutch does not make any difference.
I have been advised it is all hydraulic, not cable driven?
ATF oil.

I wonder 02-25-2010 08:35 AM

well.

my car is an older model, and it's a gasoline engine, but I still have a diesel gearbox on it. I had to change gearbox, and the trouth is, they are the same. and as far as I know, all these cars (voy Mk. III and IV) have the same gearboxes and same type of clutch.
also, fluid inside the gearbox should be regular engine oil 5W30.

but, let me check out about that when I get home. maybe it's really different on a newer model voyager.

but one thing is for sure.
your clutch is NOT disengaging properly, and that's why you can't change gears normally. and if you have a hydraulic clutch, why can't you find a bleeder?

harrysaimbhi 03-01-2010 04:45 AM

I know exactly what you mean, called Chrysler and they said its a sealed unit?

harrysaimbhi 03-14-2010 12:01 PM

Any more on this I wonder?

maz2010 05-04-2010 04:06 AM

Clutch problem
 
This seems to describe the symptoms of my 51 crd voyager. Gears are a struggle to change. Need to force them in and sometimes grind. When in gear with the clutch pedal all the way down, the cars stills wants to move and vibrates a lot. Does anyone think it is the cluck kit that needs replacing or is it something else?

actd 05-04-2010 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by harrysaimbhi (Post 35504)
Any more on this I wonder?

What's the mileage of your Voyager?

Was the clutch fork replaced when the clutch was replaced?

harrysaimbhi 05-05-2010 02:14 AM

Chaps, i had to replace and repair a number of things, expensive business. Rear Crank seals to begin with as the car was pi55in out oil, clutch was worn so new clutch, then lost pressure to clutch master and slave cynder, so replaced that. Then there was the porblem of not going into gears, it was the fork that was worn, new from Chrysler is approx £250, i had the fork taken out, welded then fabricated into the shape it is suppose to be, cost me a fraction of a new one, and the car is now finally back on the road. Just waiting for a bit of paint work now. Hope this helps.

glowplug 05-05-2010 02:39 AM

Good feedback mate, thanks a lot.

thegate 03-19-2014 09:26 AM

hi had a small problem with engine not starting eventually finding out it was the starter replaced that after people saying it was the ignition switch,battery clutch switch (which i have still not found),the engine management system now my clutch peddle goes down to the floor and the clutch does not disengage it seems to be a fluid system i think, i pump it for ages and still no clutch is the any way to put in any fluid or am i up the creak about a year ago i had a new clutch fitted while on holiday they bodge it i had to get it sorted when i got back but they must have lost the push rod because the garage said a non genuine part had been used ie:- a bolt, this did not affect to operation of the clutch
it is a 2.4 petrol 2002 chrysler voyager


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