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TimmyTim 07-08-2014 04:38 AM

How to program a NEW key fob?
 
I've just bought a brand new key fob(As we only ever had one) and was wondering if there was anyway In programming it without going to the main stealer? Also we have one key, so would need a new one! Do the keys have a transponder in them? Or can I just get one cut at Timpsons?

Cheers

Tim

Vmaxxer 07-08-2014 10:09 AM

What year is your car? I Found this:
2002 Chrysler Town and Country Key Fob Remote Programming Instructions


Here are the programming instructions for a 2002 Chrysler Town and Country Key Fob Remote. If you need an extra Key Fob or Replacement Fob for any vehicle you might have visit us at Keylessentryremotefob.com You can also leave comments or suggestions at the bottom of this blog and if you like what we provide please forward on to your friends & family; people like you are our best advertising tool!

ORDER THIS KEY FOB PART NUMBER HERE: 04686481AA or 04686797 or 04686481AB

ATTENTION: You MUST HAVE one working remote to add one more to the system.
If you do not have one working remote right now then these instructions will not work.
You will have to have a Locksmith or dealership use a computer to program the first
remote for you.

1. Press LOCK button 5 times at 2 second intervals to re-synchronize remote.

2. Insert key into the ignition switch. Turn ignition to the RUN position (as far as you can go without cranking engine). Wait for ignition chimes to stop.

3. Using the working remote, press and hold the UNLOCK button on the remote for 4 to 10 seconds.

4. Within the specified 4 to 10 seconds, continue pressing the UNLOCK button and then press the PANIC button ( on the programmed remote ) for 1 second and release both buttons. A chime will sound to indicate that the remote programming mode has been entered ( allow 3 seconds for chime to sound ).

5. Within 30 seconds of the chime, press and release the LOCK and UNLOCK buttons simultaneously then press and release just the UNLOCK button on the same remote. A chime will sound indicating the remote has been programmed. Press and release the LOCK and UNLOCK buttons simultaneously and then press the UNLOCK button on each new remote you wish to program at this time. A chime will sound after each
additional remote is programmed.

6. Turn the ignition OFF and remove key.

7. Test Remotes.

TimmyTim 07-08-2014 11:12 AM

Hiya...

Many thanks for the info :) My car is a 2007 year on a 56 plate. Hopefully this will work! I was going to try it now! But there is a very large thunderstorm on its way! Wind has picked up and a sudden drop in temperature! Exciting stuff! Time to get my twin boys in...

darkcild101 07-08-2014 12:52 PM

Does the 2001 model have a panic button

QinteQ 07-08-2014 01:47 PM

No EURO FOB has a sixth button

I bought a 6 button case & blade from this bloke as an experiment on the 'panic' button programming. His Chrysler stuff is here. The pcb from our standard 5 button fob has the 6 button internals which are complete and do fit ok.

The problem I had was that there is an internal [Cellophane like] 'conductive tracked membrane' for all 6 micro switches which corresponds to the 6th button which I can't seem get hold of in the UK. In conclusion the 6th button is on our fob's, the 6 button key can be bought for £4 above, the 'tracked membrane on our UK version is missing the track that connects the existing 6th micro-switch.

The 'locked' [to Chrysler] ID46 transponder chips are widely available, don't make the mistake of buying the commonly available peugeot one - they may be [locked] different. Regarding the 6 button FOB's, like yourself I have never managed to find one in the UK. I did find the 6 button Blank Blade Remote Key Case shells here in the UK. Your PCB will go straight into the FOB and the panic button will be in the correct place directly over the micro button but will still not work. What's missing is the etched (1) conductive membrane that goes between the (2) PCB and the (3) FOB shell to translate the KEYPRESS.

In short unless you can get the conductive membrane that goes between the PCB and the FOB shell you still cant make a keypress. The combination key & FOB with the 6th button can be had from America such as this one here.

- I know that the existing UK FOB has all the 6 button microswitches, but only a 5 conductive tracked membrane
- I make the assumption that any 6 button FOB or keyFOB [remote head key] shell is just that a shell
- you can transfer the internals along with the 6 microswitched PCB a from 5 to 6 button FOB but only 5 buttons will work

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE5MlgxNj...CwQ~~60_57.JPG

What I have always assumed will work [forget the grey transponder key for the minute] is get a second hand complete with conductive tracked membrane fob from America ebay, then transfer your existing 6 button EURO PCB into the 6 button panic fob complete with its conductive tracked membrane and you have a working and programmable 6 button FOB. If you take apart your existing 5 button UK or EURO FOB you will find you have a complete 6 microswitched PCB with only 5 'traced' conductive tracked membrane. Programming is here.

TimmyTim 07-08-2014 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by QinteQ (Post 81070)
No EURO FOB has a sixth button

I bought a 6 button case & blade from this bloke as an experiment on the 'panic' button programming. His Chrysler stuff is here. The pcb from our standard 5 button fob has the 6 button internals which are complete and do fit ok.

The problem I had was that there is an internal [Cellophane like] 'conductive tracked membrane' for all 6 micro switches which corresponds to the 6th button which I can't seem get hold of in the UK. In conclusion the 6th button is on our fob's, the 6 button key can be bought for £4 above, the 'tracked membrane on our UK version is missing the track that connects the existing 6th micro-switch.

The 'locked' [to Chrysler] ID46 transponder chips are widely available, don't make the mistake of buying the commonly available peugeot one - they may be [locked] different. Regarding the 6 button FOB's, like yourself I have never managed to find one in the UK. I did find the 6 button Blank Blade Remote Key Case shells here in the UK. Your PCB will go straight into the FOB and the panic button will be in the correct place directly over the micro button but will still not work. What's missing is the etched (1) conductive membrane that goes between the (2) PCB and the (3) FOB shell to translate the KEYPRESS.

In short unless you can get the conductive membrane that goes between the PCB and the FOB shell you still cant make a keypress. The combination key & FOB with the 6th button can be had from America such as this one here.

- I know that the existing UK FOB has all the 6 button microswitches, but only a 5 conductive tracked membrane
- I make the assumption that any 6 button FOB or keyFOB [remote head key] shell is just that a shell
- you can transfer the internals along with the 6 microswitched PCB a from 5 to 6 button FOB but only 5 buttons will work

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE5MlgxNj...CwQ~~60_57.JPG

What I have always assumed will work [forget the grey transponder key for the minute] is get a second hand complete with conductive tracked membrane fob from America ebay, then transfer your existing 6 button EURO PCB into the 6 button panic fob complete with its conductive tracked membrane and you have a working and programmable 6 button FOB. If you take apart your existing 5 button UK or EURO FOB you will find you have a complete 6 microswitched PCB with only 5 'traced' conductive tracked membrane. Programming is here.


Great post mate. So is the method talked about above the correct way of doing it as mine is a genuine new UK fob? . Also it looks like there isn't a transponder in the separate key if you can buy a fob with a blank blade. Is this correct?

QinteQ 07-08-2014 04:11 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Yeh so are my two FOBS, the one single item, needed for myself is the '6 conductive tracked membrane' - all the UK and as far as I'm aware all EURO FOBS are 5 button and 5 'conductive tracked membrane's' but they all have 6 micro-switch internals. What you and I want is the membrane with the 6 tracks on it. If you take apart your existing FOB you will find you have a piece of PCB with the complete 6 micro-switches. The picture below shows a bog standard EURO fob without a panic button .. .. .. but with the already present 6 micro-switches.

For example also if desired, the "Sound Horn On Lock" feature can be turned on and off by performing the following procedure:

1. Press the LOCK button for 5 to 10 seconds.
2. While the LOCK button is pressed (after 5 seconds), press the PANIC button. Release both buttons.

The "Sound Horn On Lock" feature can be reactivated by repeating this procedure.

Attachment 2416

darkcild101 07-09-2014 01:27 PM

So what does panic button do

QinteQ 07-09-2014 02:35 PM

Chrysler and Dodge vehicles from the 2005 timeframe use a keyless entry system developed originally for the Mercedes brand. The system actually implements the driver convenience and safety functions, an immobilization function designed to prevent vehicle theft, and sets the alarm state off and on. Different buttons on the EURO FOB variously :

- lock and unlock all doors on the vehicle, or drivers door only
- one [not in the UK or Europe] is a panic button that can be pushed to sound an alarm
- one is power lift [boot] gate
- one each for both left & right motorised sliding doors

What the panic button does is allow a user to program up to 4 different transmitters, in order to do this the panic button needs to be used.

TimmyTim 07-10-2014 02:59 AM

Oh right... complicated stuff me thinks! But as long as I can programme the new remote! Thats all I'm really bothered about! :)

darkcild101 07-10-2014 02:31 PM

Just noticed the two fobs have different numbers at the back. One ends in AA and the other AB

TimmyTim 07-11-2014 07:41 PM

Maybe AB is an upgraded version?

TimmyTim 07-13-2014 06:28 AM

Well I thought I'd give the key fob remote a go! But it would seem that it can't be done unless you have a panic button on it and another key with a transponder! I will continue to search the web... HELP

QinteQ 08-01-2014 05:22 PM

Update

The '6 conductive tracked membrane' I mentioned in #7 along with the corresponding rubber buttons can be seen here. The membrane on its own is here. Here's a different shaped one for a Jeep. All Chrysler remotes 2/3/4/5/6 Button FCC ID:OHT692427AA work on 315mhz. Other 'panic button' related FOBS are here.

NOTE : This Chinese site calls it a plastic sheet, you can see the conductive tracking between the microswitch nodes.

estrika 11-16-2014 05:11 AM

hi guys
what can we do if there is no chime, my GVoyager 2006 does not chime at all, tried programming keys, programming fob, disabling the seat belt warning, nothing no chime for me, what could it be?
i really do not want to go to a dealer here in france they do not have very knowledge and start putting pieces that are not needed.
big bill to pay fo something that could be easy to do

TimmyTim 11-16-2014 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by estrika (Post 84877)
hi guys
what can we do if there is no chime, my GVoyager 2006 does not chime at all, tried programming keys, programming fob, disabling the seat belt warning, nothing no chime for me, what could it be?
i really do not want to go to a dealer here in france they do not have very knowledge and start putting pieces that are not needed.
big bill to pay fo something that could be easy to do

This is a bit of a mare for us on here! I bought a brnd new UK fob in the hope that I could get it programmed from the original fob so we have a spare! But I can'tget anywhere with it. Looks like a main dealer option to get it coded in the UK! Which mens stupid money

QinteQ 11-16-2014 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by estrika (Post 84877)
hi guys
what can we do if there is no chime, my GVoyager 2006 does not chime at all, tried programming keys, programming fob, disabling the seat belt warning, nothing no chime for me, what could it be?
i really do not want to go to a dealer here in France they do not have very knowledge and start putting pieces that are not needed.
big bill to pay for something that could be easy to do

- if the cars brain has been programmed with a country code - and it has !
- then the 'disallowed' customer preference can not be re-programmed from the FOB
- so telling the alarm to 'bleep' or seatbelt to 'chime' is only allowed if its allowable under the country code
- the country code can be re-set to any on of the 11 [I think] anytime, but you need a capable scanner to do that

Hope this helps your understanding.

estrika 11-16-2014 08:58 AM

at least someone with explanation for this
thanks qinteq
for what i understand when the car is programmed with certain country codes programming mode is off?
only solution is to go to a chrysler dealer and demand to remove the country code? (money to be spend)
the same happens when programming new transponder keys, i presume its the same problem.
do you know european countrys that have programming enabled?
this GV was bought in italy, is now in france, france country code enables programming?
again thanks for your help, for a couple weeks that i try to find a answer for my problem and only today i got it.

QinteQ 11-16-2014 09:24 AM

Richard [tfb] on this forum and other England-UK based members have capable scanners that can easily switch on and off country codes and customer preferences. What you first need to know is which European countries have which preferences enabled by default.

Take for one example the 'beep on lock & unlock', this used to be a standard default in the UK and 99.9% of vehicles had it. At some point in the distant past the Euro government invented a law banning alarm beeps [noise pollution] on activation and de activation of the alarm feature on European imported vehicles, my understanding of the current laws is that the arm and disarm indication beeps is strictly forbidden in all EU countries.

What you would need to do is find out which countries did [for your car build year software version] allow 'beep on lock & unlock' and change the country code to that country, so for example if the US did allow 'beep on lock & unlock' you would use a capable scanner to change the country code to US then change the US miles to kilometres on the overhead display preferences. Your first question is - is it really worth all that trouble. Most indi garages here will do this change country protocol for £30UKP, ask your local indi's what they charge, tell them first its in the BCM section of the scanner, then under customer preferences.

Best of luck my friend.

estrika 11-16-2014 01:45 PM

regarding country preferences enabled i cannot find anything related, i know my first GV bought in france had programming enabled because i programmed 2 more keys for it like i want to do with this (i have a problem with keys lost them easily) when i buy a car or moto i make always copies of it, to have always 2 keys programmed so that i can program the others, anyway i thought in buying a key copier machine less expensive but some needs pin witch i do not have to program keys and i cannot get good info regarding one key programmer that can grab the pin for my car.
regarding drb 3 scanners i know only 2 starscan used by chrysler and expensive as hell and witech for about 500 euros, i know both permits changing country stuff and costumer related but its 500 euros to use in my car, if it was for french cars i have the machine, i have clients with those kind of cars and make money of the machine but for chrysler i am pretty sure that only user of machine will be me.
do you have better solutions?

Parcel 03-17-2021 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by TimmyTim (Post 81033)
I've just bought a brand new key fob(As we only ever had one) and was wondering if there was anyway In programming it without going to the main stealer? Also we have one key, so would need a new one! Do the keys have a transponder in them? Or can I just get one cut at Timpsons?

Cheers

Tim

I have the same problem. U need to get it programed. If u had 2 keys it would be easy. There are no Chrysler dealers in the Uk, only Fiat/Chrysler, they are not geared up to provide support to CGV owners..
I'm also in Wales. Timpsons charge around £50 to do it. I'm still waiting to get it done, I've had the car since last Aug...

HellasHaggis 02-17-2022 06:36 AM

My apologies if I have missed the plot or the instruction, but from what I can see in this thread, there is no alternate way of programming the 5 button fob that does not have the panic button, or is there another button that can be pressed instead of the panic to programme the 5 button version?

Thanks for any assistance.


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