http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1977016170.pdf
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005...nenhance.html/
http://ntpefs.com/idaho_national_lab...en_study.html/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py8QYt54EpE

I will read the nasa dob. its the only one you posted I would consider legitimate.

the second one confirms what I already know. a HIGHLY specialized designed for engine could take advantage not of hydrogen a fuel but of hydrogen as a way to LEAN OUT an engine without damaging it.

but without an engine designed for it....

the third one. yeah right. even I don't right "BLOCKS" of text that large. its virtually impossible to read.

The youtube video is a crock till independantly confirmed.

I know of NO method to get 1 LPM per AMP of power. that is extraordinary efficiency on the order of 10 times better than the best I have ever seen.

what they are doing APPEARS to defy the laws of thermodynamics as we know them (though we could be wrong)

the other problem is unless I REALLY did my math wrong (and I very well could have) even 55lpm is no where NEAR enough gas to run that vehicle even at idle.

Great back and fourth guys. Not to derail it, but does anyone know, if once the HHO system is installed with the computer compensator, can you still use your stock MPG computer or do you have to get a different MPG reader?

U dont change the computer u add a potentiometer to the o2 sensors wires and the MPG reader is still the same math as the computer was using already.

Alright after getting it all setup and the efiee setup the way it is suppose to B4 i had all of this installed I would do 200-220 miles on one tank of gas a 9 gal tank. Would get less if I had the ac on of course.
I am on the second week with everything working correctly no performance loss no check engine light with lean or rich codes and I am getting 290-310 miles off a tank now.
I will be recording on the iphone and taking number date to show the progress.

So let me get this straight? your now getting over 32mpg in your minivan?

E0 or E10? (I get 28mpg on E0 and 22mpg on E10)

why does your vehicle have a 9gal tank? can you clarify on that?

how would you know if you have a lean or rich condition since your using a replacement EFI setup to spoof the data?

can you test cylinder temps? hotter cooler? (IE a lean condition would result in higher cylinder temps)

I COULD be wrong on this but I THINK a good hydrogen mix should actually result in lower cylinder temps.

how much brown's gas are you producing per minute? Amp draw of your generator?

no dodge neon 1996 2.0 motor normal quick trip gas i go to the same place every tine and use the same pump have been for years
I have a dealer scanner to which i can see the fuel trim and o2 voltages and so on
with out having a sensor right in there to measure temp or some sorta scope with a prob i doubt u could measure temp correctly.
1.5-2 lpm and using 15 amps depends on the mixture i use to get a few more amps but trying to keep it at 15

Ok clarify for me. it sounds like you started with a car that needed work to start with only getting 22mpg. did ANY model of neon come only rated for 22mpg?

From what I remember the neon is rated for 30mpg out of the box and careful driving can push that to 40mpg IIRC.

what am I missing ?

Its a work car so I have about 700 lbs of tools in the trunk there is your 7mpg loss
I am in Atlanta I have no flat surface only hills and Atlanta traffic u don't get to do above 3ed gear and 35 mph Federal gov standards on a 96 neon 2.0 5 speed city is 24 mpg I have yet to do a full drive where I only do highway so I don't know what I would get if I was all out drive until the tank was empty.