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Brian7743 08-23-2016 07:22 PM

Power but won't start
 
Hi guys my name is Brian a d I have a 2005 town and country 3.3. Came home for lunch today and couldn't get back to work because it wouldn't start. When I turn the key, I get nothing. No click. No nothing. I have checked all the fuses, made sure it was in Park but still nothing. My lights come on fine. One thing I noticed was that my gas Guage doesn't show how much gas I have when I turn the key on. Can someone help me few to work tomorrow please

goggs 08-24-2016 07:04 AM

Could be security and key related. Do you have a spare key to try. Can you get to starter motor to check if there's power going to the starter coil when key turned. Answers here would help.

Brian7743 08-24-2016 07:47 AM

No I do not have a safe key. I did lock the car with the remote and unlock with the key and that didn't work. I took the starter off and took it to be checked and it checked out fine however I do not kno how to check to be sure power is there when the key is turned

goggs 08-24-2016 12:57 PM

There's a wire going onto the coil of the starter motor well that's the positive power soarce. Neg/earth goes through engine to battery via engine to body earth cable. Check out this cable too. So with key turned there should be 12v at coil cable. If not further checks required.

Scotsman4th 08-24-2016 04:49 PM

I've had similar with a kia before, I wiggled the negative battery lead and it cleared it.
Long shot, but worth a try.

Brian7743 08-24-2016 08:23 PM

Ok I put the starter r back in and have constant voltage on the battery cable size cable on the starter. The smaller cable never had any voltage on it when the key was turned to the start position. I have never had any problems like this before and can figure it out

Brian7743 08-24-2016 10:33 PM

[QUOTE=Brian7743;96973]Ok I put the starter r back in and have constant voltage on the battery cable size cable on the starter. The smaller cable never had any voltage on it when the key was turned to the start position. I also put power to the smaller wire on the starter with the key on and the starter cranked over but the motor didn't start like it had no power to the coil

Brian7743 08-24-2016 10:36 PM

Ok I used the small wire on the starter to crank the motor over with the key on but it didn't start. Like there was no power to the coil.

goggs 08-25-2016 02:18 PM

Well that shows between key and starter there is a fault that also does not allow engine to fire up. And wait fuel gauge not operating. Just a thought here have you did a reset by disconnecting the negative cable and reconnecting after 20 mins. I'm thinking relay here that goes click when turning key and you don't have it. Nice learning curve this.

Brian7743 08-26-2016 07:40 PM

I have an update as to exactly what is happening. After hooking up the battery that has been charging for a couple hours, I tried to start the vehicle, all the dash lights came on and the gages pegged out to the max and went back down. The engine light went out and came back on the red light to the top right of the speedometer stayed on. The car still didn't crank. I manually cranked the starter over with a jumper and it still didn't start telling me no power to the coil. I am about to call a locksmith and have a new key programmed. I don't know what else to try.

Brian7743 08-27-2016 01:20 PM

Ok somehow I got a the car to start before the locksmith got here. So I drove the car and it stalled out. I put it in neutral and it started again but it stalled again a few min later. This time I pulled over and it wouldn't start or even crank. I waited for about 30sec and when I turned on the key I heard the fuel pump and it started.. It died a few more times on my way back home 3 miles. If I didn't hear the fuel pump it wouldn't crank but when I did it would. Anybody have any suggestions?

goggs 08-27-2016 03:07 PM

Fuel pressure problem but is a pressure needed for it to crank over. Here but your mentioning putting it in Neutral so is this an Automatic ? If it is I'm thinking wiring here between box and shift lever or module.

Brian7743 08-27-2016 05:20 PM

Wiring faults, definitely not one of My strengths. Can u tell me where this box and shifter module are located

Brian7743 08-27-2016 09:27 PM

I am looking for something g that provides power to the fuel pump, coil and starter. Can I run a positive wire to the pump and to the coil and jump the starter to get this thing started?

goggs 08-28-2016 01:42 PM

Jumping won't achieve what you want as the ECU has to be happy with what's coming into it before the injectors are activated. See if you can get underneath and check all the wiring that's coming out of the box and where it goes to with no damaged cables. Frizzled cables on V6's is an issue due to Exhaust heat and earthing. But of course check for power at the fuel pump when it should be there.

CoolDaddy 09-24-2016 10:39 PM

You might want to check out your neutral safety switch and your ASD(automatic shutdown relay) - both of which can cause a vehicle not to start.


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