You'll like this...GasCap, EVAP again
'09 Aspen with the old EVAP system malfunction. Many on here have had it.
I took it back to the dealer where I bought it. I told them everything I have learned through experimenting and the info from the pro's here. They didn't listen. They called me and said it was fixed and ready to go. I went to get it and guess what they did... Replaced the fuel cap! They said very smugly it was the fuel cap. They replaced it and the codes didn't come back. I sat down with the manager and explained in detail what was up with this thing. I told him the code would be back and I'd be back again. Here's the best part. They put over 100 miles on it so I made them put fuel back in it. When the guy got back from the pumps he went right to the manager and told him the engine light was back on! Now they're going to call the Chrysler shop and get some tips on fixing it. They should have listened to me this morning! |
Do you know what the code is?
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Originally Posted by TNtech
(Post 54637)
Do you know what the code is?
Another funny thing is they said they pressure tested the EVAP system and found bad gas cap. BS! |
Originally Posted by jtmattison
(Post 54641)
0456, 0457, and 0440.
Another funny thing is they said they pressure tested the EVAP system and found bad gas cap. BS! Clear as mud? lolz |
Well I brought it back today. After my long conversation with the service manager I believe they listened this time. They said they replaced the ESIM.
So far, so good. No gas cap message or engine light. However, it's only been through a couple run cycles. I'm crossing my fingers. Thanks for the input! |
During the times of year when outside temps start fluctuating we get a bunch of these small leak codes. When the engine and car are hot the leak may bot be there but when it cools it will appear. Very frustrating sometimes.
It may take up to two weeks to fail the small leak monitor. Note the Small leak test can find leaks less than 20 thousands of an inch. If a small leak is present it takes approximately two weeks of normal driving to report a failure. |
Originally Posted by TNtech
(Post 54758)
During the times of year when outside temps start fluctuating we get a bunch of these small leak codes. When the engine and car are hot the leak may bot be there but when it cools it will appear. Very frustrating sometimes.
I really hope it doesn't come back. It's very annoying. |
Originally Posted by jtmattison
(Post 54768)
Well our temps are starting to fluctuate a lot. 20's in the AM and up to 50 n the PM.
I really hope it doesn't come back. It's very annoying. |
News flash...
It wasn't the ESIM! I went through almost 3 tanks of gas and suddenly this morning I get the gas cap message and engine light. Now what? |
All I can do from here is tell you what my multitude of experiences have been. I have no way of knowing if they are doing it right or not. I am assuming they are not. This is a new age where you actually have to be intelligent and know electronics really well to work on a car. If they don't have the ability to do so then I don't know what to advise you to do other than take it to another dealer. As far as whatever money you have spent with them, that's between you guys.
OK, let me clear this up...you are at a Chrysler dealer correct?? |
Originally Posted by TNtech
(Post 54841)
OK, let me clear this up...you are at a Chrysler dealer correct??
The manager said that if the ESIM doesn't fix it he'll take it to the Chrysler dealer for them to fix it. I haven't spent a penny here. They sold me the problem so they are going to fix it. |
Originally Posted by jtmattison
(Post 54847)
No. Its at the shop where this Ford dealer services used cars for resale. They don't have a clue. That was evident when they lied and said they pressure tested the system and found a bad gas cap.
The manager said that if the ESIM doesn't fix it he'll take it to the Chrysler dealer for them to fix it. I haven't spent a penny here. They sold me the problem so they are going to fix it. |
First thing in the morning I'll be at the Chrysler shop to get this fixed, finally, I hope!
JT |
Haha, i have an 07 on the rack right now :p
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The diagnosis this time was leaking ESIM. Apparently when they replaced it at the Toyota dealer they didn't install the seal. Chrysler installed a new seal, smoke tested it again, and forced an EVAP test on it which it passed.
I guess it was a two-sided problem. First a bad ESIM and then a new ESIM minus the seal. Man I hope this is put to rest! JT |
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