Chrysler Forum - Chrysler Enthusiast Forums

Chrysler Forum - Chrysler Enthusiast Forums (https://www.chryslerforum.com/forum/)
-   Chrysler 200 & Sebring (https://www.chryslerforum.com/forum/chrysler-200-sebring-14/)
-   -   2006 Sebring Limited Parking Drum Brakes (https://www.chryslerforum.com/forum/chrysler-200-sebring-14/2006-sebring-limited-parking-drum-brakes-32550/)

Zach Wilson 12-27-2020 05:06 PM

2006 Sebring Limited Parking Drum Brakes
 
Hey i have an 06 Sebring Limited, i am trying to replace the parking brake shoes, i got all new shoes and hardware, but can't for the life of me figure out how it all goes back together, ive been at it for litterally several weeks now, at one pt i got it all together so i thought, but only one shoe would move at a time. i think mistake has something to do with the placement of the acuator lever, maybe? i cant get it in any position that makes sense, i assume it should not be THIS hard. Can anyone offer any advice and/or resources?? Id great appreciate it!!!

dcotter0579 12-28-2020 08:49 AM

Here's a tip for the future: Don't disassemble both sides at the same time. Finish one side before touching the other side so you can use the untouched side as a guide for putting it back together. Assuming it's too late for that, invest a few bucks in a Haynes or Chilton's manual to guide you through the process. You'll find it's money well spent. They are readily available on line and you might even find one in your local auto parts store.

Zach Wilson 12-28-2020 09:53 AM

Thank you!
 

Originally Posted by dcotter0579 (Post 116635)
Here's a tip for the future: Don't disassemble both sides at the same time. Finish one side before touching the other side so you can use the untouched side as a guide for putting it back together. Assuming it's too late for that, invest a few bucks in a Haynes or Chilton's manual to guide you through the process. You'll find it's money well spent. They are readily available on line and you might even find one in your local auto parts store.

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense, ill look into geting a manual

Zach Wilson 03-15-2021 02:40 PM

New Shoes longer??
 
Im still struggling with this. I got the Haynes manual which i understand completely and can easy follow step by step, but it's as if theres no enough room here for all these peices to go together properly. I first bought new shoes online, from A1 Auto i believe, and when i compare them to the old ones, the new ones are just a little longer, by maybe a quarter inch. So i eventually figured that must be the problem, they sent me the wrong shoes. So this time i ordered them thru AutoZone, and they came exactly as the ones i bought online. Does anybody know anything about this, why would the new shoes be made 1/4in longer than the older ones?? Am i just getting the wrong ones? twice now? Could that be causing problems for me?
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.chr...2bed4e2665.jpg

dcotter0579 03-15-2021 07:44 PM

Yours isn't a coupe, is it? The coupe was a very different vehicle from the sedan/convertible. Parts for the coupe won't fit the others and vice versa. If that's not the problem the parts should work even if they don't look exactly like the old ones. Could be that somebody adjusted the parking brake to compensate for wear and it might need to be adjusted back again.

Zach Wilson 03-15-2021 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by dcotter0579 (Post 117542)
Yours isn't a coupe, is it? The coupe was a very different vehicle from the sedan/convertible. Parts for the coupe won't fit the others and vice versa. If that's not the problem the parts should work even if they don't look exactly like the old ones. Could be that somebody adjusted the parking brake to compensate for wear and it might need to be adjusted back again.

Nope, its a Sedan, not-convertible, im clear on that, and at this point i know how it all goes together i just cant seem to keep it the parts where theyr supposed to be, the actuator lever keeps slipping out of position or when i do get it all together it doesn't function properly, ive been adjusting the parking brake throughout the process🤔

dcotter0579 03-16-2021 01:45 PM

You're sure the parts you got aren't intended for a coupe?

Zach Wilson 03-16-2021 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by dcotter0579 (Post 117556)
You're sure the parts you got aren't intended for a coupe?

Well when i bought them online i selected Sedan, and when i ordered them over the phone w AutoZone i told them 4 door, not convertible, so it would be pretty nuts if i was given a screw up twice. Im wondering if maybe the parking brake adjustment is my issue, is there a particular state at which i should have the parking brake lever when replacing the shoes?

dcotter0579 03-16-2021 06:43 PM

Completely off. That would be down as far as possible. The cable should be a little slack, no load on it.

Zach Wilson 03-21-2021 02:06 PM

pics
 
im working on it right now. gonna post some pics and vids n see if anyone sees something wrong. i have a hard time keeping the L of the actuator lever behind that block (ill show in video) it seems its supposed to be there, one picture in the manual shows it there, and if its not behind it, its pinned between it and the back of the shoe. when i manage to get it behind there its only by the tip of the corner and it slips out if anything moves. also the entire situation is SO TIGHT i can't imagine how it could ever move and function properly
nvm it wont let me upload the vids
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.chr...b5a1445ba3.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.chr...133e77d285.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.chr...72494d0bb2.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.chr...4f1f978f5b.jpg

Zach Wilson 03-21-2021 02:16 PM

together and testing
 
so i cant get the lever to stay behind that block, when i pull on the hand break, only the forward shoe moves back and forth, the rear stays stationary, and that lever rides smoth back and forth on the surface of that block and behind the rear stationary shoe. thats whats happening now, as far as i know theyr both supposed to move out and in, so it seems in order for that to happen that never needs to be behind that block. but that seems just not possible, everything is so tight its like theres no room for that to be possible, also i have tried this at every possible cable adjustment tight and loose, and completely disconnected

Zach Wilson 03-21-2021 02:20 PM

also i tried to fit the rotor on just to see, and i barely could get it on, i coukd force it on but the pads are against the inside of it TIGHT and theres absolutly no room for the shoes to get closer together, ESPECIALLY if that lever needs to stay behind that block...

Zach Wilson 03-21-2021 02:30 PM

when i hold that lever behind the block w a screwdriver while my uncle works the handle, both shoes move properly, but if push the lever back there and don't hold it, soon as the lever is pulled the movent of the shoes pulls it right out from behind the block immediately. like nothing can possibly keep it there.
Please feel free to call me an idioanif anyone notices something stupid im not getting but between my uncle and i, whos been working on cars much longer than me, we cannot figure out whats wrong here. Ive ruled out the shoes being longer as a problem the difference is much smaller than i thought if there at all its just easy to not line them up properly to compare. any advice is super appreciated as always!

dcotter0579 03-21-2021 02:41 PM

1 Attachment(s)
I attach some relevant pages from the factory shop manual. It looks quite a bit different from your photos, if I read them correctly. The shop manual shows the adjuster at the bottom and the spring and activating lever at the top. Your photos seem to show it with the adjuster at the top. I'm confused.

Zach Wilson 03-21-2021 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by dcotter0579 (Post 117630)
I attach some relevant pages from the factory shop manual. It looks quite a bit different from your photos, if I read them correctly. The shop manual shows the adjuster at the bottom and the spring and activating lever at the top. Your photos seem to show it with the adjuster at the top. I'm confused.

i have also seen it that way in photos but thats not how it goes with the 06 limited sedan, the way i have it is the way it was when i first took it apart, and i put it together following directions step by step to the T from the haynes manual for 06 sedan. Although in the manual it does not specify in words that the lever needs to be behind that block, just shows it in the photo leading me to believe it should not be SO HARD / impossible to keep it there


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:14 PM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands