Hey yall


im new here, I have a 15 200 C. I have noticed Recently while using the remote start on cold mornings, I’m getting fumes in the car.

ive been to 2 garages one being a dealer, both say they see nothing. The dealer told me it was a design flaw in the exhaust system.

$145 for 15 minutes of work at the dealer!!!

 

Try parking the car so that the front of the car faces the wind. You may be parking with the rear facing into the wind and getting exhaust blown forward toward the cowl where the heater takes in air. Or you may be parking in a "dead zone" in the lee of the house or building where the air doesn't circulate well. At least try parking facing a different direction or in a different location. Across the wind is probably good enough to carry the exhaust away. The garages where you went were probably looking for exhaust leaks. If they didn't find any, then that is probably ruled out. Watch the car when you start it with the remote starter. After a minute or two, you should begin to see visible steam coming out of the exhaust pipe on a cold day. See if you can see it moving toward the area in front of the windshield where the heater takes in air. If this were a "design flaw" then ALL Sebrings and 200s from 2007 and on would have it. For what it's worth, yours is the first complaint of that problem that has showed up on the forum here, and those vehicles have been out there for 14 years. It doesn't take 14 years for "design flaws" to show up.

 

It’s weird, this morning I used my RS and didn’t smell anything... it was 29 degrees according to my car..

So I don’t know

 

Could be a change in the wind direction.

 

It would have to be tornado/hurricane like winds with the fumes I’m getting


QUOTE=dcotter0579;117066]Could be a change in the wind direction.[/QUOTE]

 

It's not the velocity of the wind, it's the direction. If the wind is blowing (even slowly) from the exhaust pipe toward the heater intake, you're going to get some inside the car. If it's blowing from the front of the car toward the back, it's very unlikely that any exhaust will come into the car.

 

That’s funny...it didn’t start until recently. How come the dealer didn’t say a thing about how the wind blew?

 

If it was a design flaw, like your dealer said, why wasn't it present since the car was new? Did somebody come along recently and change the design of the car? If it just came along recently, it would be logical to look for something that has happened recently that would cause the condition. Has the exhaust system been tampered with or damaged in some fashion? Did you drive over something that may have struck the underside of the car? Has something rusted out? Have you looked under there yourself and inspected it for damage or rust? Did somebody shovel snow against the tailpipe causing the exhaust to flow under the car?

I don't know why your dealer did not mention the wind, but since he has no idea what is causing the problem other than the mysterious and unspecified "design flaw" which does not seem to affect any other of the hundreds of thousands of vehicles with the same design, then, quite frankly, I wouldn't put much trust in anything that he either says or doesn't say. He seems to be happy to take your money and provide nothing in return.