Hi guys, first post here. I'm interested in using the Sebring COP's for a different application but need to know if they're the "smart" type (built in igniter) or "dumb" (no igniter).

They have 3 pins in their connectors, so they "could" be either type. Unfortunately I do not have ignition wiring diagrams, so am hoping some kind soul here can help me out.

Thanks in advance!

 

'Smart' COPs (whatever that means) built-in igniter (er - what) are aftermarket. The Sebring are simply standard COPs, nothing special.

 

Thanks for the reply, however smart or dumb refers to the presence or absence of an igniter mounted within the COP itself. It has nothing to do with the COP being OEM or aftermarket.

Most OEM's are now using smart COP's in their ignition systems and the more advanced OEMs (like the Japanese) have been using them in their cars since the late 90's.

There is no such thing as a "standard" COP. They're either smart or dumb and I'm guessing from your response you don't know which and don't understand the difference.

 

Please then, explain to me what an 'igniter' is. Thanks

 

Think of the igniters as solid state relays that take low level signals from the engine ECU's and switch heavier +12 power on/off to the COP's.

In the very early days of COP's, the igniters were either built into the car's ECU's or they were separate modules in the engine bay. Eventually, the ECU manufacturers and COP manufacturers figured out how to integrate the igniters into the COP's themselves and these COP's are referred to as "smart".

You can usually tell a smart COP from a dumb COP by the number of pins in the connector. Smart COP's typically have 3-4 pins, while dumb COP's have 2-3. When a COP has exactly 3 pins, then you need a schematic or wiring diagram of that ignition system to be able to know which it is.

 

If it is of any value, 2005 and prior were 2-pin and 2006+ were 3-pin. I do not have an '06 FSM so I am not able to note the pin outs.

 

Thanks, the sample COP that I have has 3 pins and I'd be guessing at how to wire it up without a pinout. I'm hoping it's the smart type so I can use it in my application, but without a wiring diagram I'm flying blind.

 

what year make modal engine size did you get said coil from?

 

It's the later version coil that came in the Chrysler 200 with the 2.0 & 2.4 engine from 2011-2014 & Jeep Patriot with the same engine

Physically, it looks like the earlier Sebring coils but has a 3 pin connector. The early Sebring coils fit my application but were the dumb type and I need a smart coil for this new application.

 

Knowing the year is useful, I have the FSM for the 2014 200. It is a 3-pin connector with only 2 pins wired