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2013 Chrysler 300 transmission fluid

Old Feb 4, 2025 | 01:40 PM
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I recently bought a 2013 300 base with the 3.6L and 8spd transmission with 100k miles, I don't think the car has ever had the transmission fluid and filter changed any thoughts on using VALVOLINE VV3246 fluid and A-Premium filter?

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Old Feb 4, 2025 | 07:42 PM
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kiss your transmission good bye if you put that in.
Your filter is built into the pan will need a new pan if you want to replace the filter and use only fluid is 8 or 9 ZF fluid only
 
Old Feb 5, 2025 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CHRYSLER TECH
kiss your transmission good bye if you put that in.
Your filter is built into the pan will need a new pan if you want to replace the filter and use only fluid is 8 or 9 ZF fluid only
Good morning Kevin,

Have you personally seen issues arise from the use of Valvoline? The filter in my initial post is built into the pan but it is aftermarket.

How much fluid is required and should I be concerned about changing the fluid at 100k miles?
 
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generic all purpose fluid will not work as i said it will tear up your transmission all the horror stories you hear about changing your fluid and **** happens its because of the wrong fluid being put in.
Just because its compatible does not mean its correct for the car. typical drain and fill will be about 3 to 5 quarts
 
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Originally Posted by CHRYSLER TECH
generic all purpose fluid will not work as i said it will tear up your transmission all the horror stories you hear about changing your fluid and **** happens its because of the wrong fluid being put in.
Just because its compatible does not mean its correct for the car. typical drain and fill will be about 3 to 5 quarts

Good information, thank you!
 
Old Feb 8, 2025 | 08:13 AM
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There is no such thing as a universal atf, one size does not fit all.

Manufacturers develop the atf to specific specifications and design the transmissions and control/shift software based on those specs. For example, mercon/dexron has a higher coefficient of friction (grabbier) than the ZF fluid (slipperier) and would result in harsher shifts and increased wear/loss of clutch friction material.
 
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Originally Posted by ggoose
There is no such thing as a universal atf, one size does not fit all.

Manufacturers develop the atf to specific specifications and design the transmissions and control/shift software based on those specs. For example, mercon/dexron has a higher coefficient of friction (grabbier) than the ZF fluid (slipperier) and would result in harsher shifts and increased wear/loss of clutch friction material.
I understand what you're saying but I'm not referring to a "one size fits all" transmission fluid, I'm asking about a fluid that meets the requirements of the transmission manufacturer. Is this THAT much different than every other car manufacturer selling their rebranded fluids?

According to Valvoline's product information sheet this fluid meets the "L12108" standard, I would think that if you use this fluid and it ruins your tranny they would have been sued (not only by Chrysler 300 owners but by everyone else on that list). I understand that this may not be the exact formula but perhaps it doesn't need to be exact? A lot of car manufacturers are using less than ideal fluids (such as oil) simply to increase fuel economy ratings and not to increase engine life could this be something similar?

https://sharena21.springcm.com/Publi...0-ac162d889bd3

Shell L12108 Transmission

What about this fluid?:
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I'm not trying to be difficult but I'm the guy that uses "diesel oil" in his motorcycles against the recommendations of the dealer, they would rather sell me motorcycles oil at 5x the cost.
 
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What beer do you like? if you found a wallmart brand of beer that says it taste just like that would you buy it? or would you stick with what you like because of the taste and such? transmission fluid is the same just because it says it meets this standard it does not mean it will work in that transmission. also think of it as blood there are what 9 types of blood blood is blood right ? no it has to be compactable or a universal type where you body can absorb it. Does it take the place of all your blood no it just fills in the gap until your body will make its own and replenish it. Putting in a meets standard ATF will cause harm to your trans if you need a want to get you by until you can do a repair or get moving to get to a repair that thats ok it will dilute itself in with the original fluid but putting all of the generic type in will deff cause harm.
 

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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CHRYSLER TECH
What beer do you like? if you found a wallmart brand of beer that says it taste just like that would you buy it? or would you stick with what you like because of teh taste and such? transmission fluid is the same just because it says it meets this standard it does not mean it will work in that transmission. alos think of it as blood there are what 9 types of blood blood is blood right ? no it has to be compactable or a universal type where you body can absorb it. Does it take the place of all your blood no it just fills in the gap until your body will make its own and replenish it. Putting in a meets standard ATF will cause harm to your trans if you need a want to get you by until you can do a repair or get moving to get to a repair that thats ok it will dilute itself in with the original fluid but putting all of the generic type in will deff cause harm.
That's an interesting way to look at it.
 
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