2001 Uk Grand Voyager - Reverse lights stopped working
Hi,
Can anyone help? I have a 2001 manual Grand Voyager and both the reverse lights have just stopped working. Is there a fuse somewhere for these, or is there a gearbox switch that tells the lights when the cars in reverse? Thanks, Steve. |
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There is a recall for reverse light switch might be an idea to get this check out. |
Thanks for the reply. How do I go about checking this recall? Do I need to just contact my local dealer with the VIN number? Does the recall have a specific number I can quote to them?
Thanks, Steve. |
No just give them your vin and ask them to run a VIP sheet as for may also have other recall outstanding.
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Hi,
New Chrysler owner but old second hand Chrysler bought... I have the same issue in that the reversing lights have stopped working. This info is 6 years old, is it still valid or am I just going to have to speak to a mechanic and get it sorted...? Cheers, Rob. |
Should have said, I have an 03 plate 2.5 Diesel Manual Grand Voyager... if that makes any difference.
Ta, Rob. |
Go back to 11-21-2013 No reverse lights. I've got same problem still to sort out. It seems its the BCM that controls the rear backup lights, but the signal for it must come from the Gearbox. Auto-boxes probably get signal from gear its in on dash.
I was told by my MOT Garage that I needed a new gearbox switch and asked if I wanted it ordered. Would have got it sorted by now if I had. Wire for Backup lights in boot is White/Light Green. 2003 Voyager Ltd, 2.5CRD. |
Brilliant - I have located a tame ex-Chrysler mechanic who I have to contact and see how helpful he is so will ask about this and if it might be any other issue and what about the costs of potential problems and will post back if I find anything new.
Cheers goggs. Rob. |
On a US spec van at least, signal comes out of the Transmission Range Sensor in the transmission (4 speed **) to the Front Control Module (FCM). From there it goes out on the PCI data bus to the BCM then out to the lights.
** If you have a 3 speed tranny it uses an old tried and true park/neutral switch external on the tranny. |
Cheers Raptor, it's not I'm afraid... It's a UK model 5 speed manual transmission.
(I should update my signature)... I see that others have replaced the actual switch in the gearstick housing and the BCM unit so i'll start cheap and try the switch, though I still should call Chrysler if that was good information about a recall for this exact fault. Cheers all, Rob. |
Cheers QinteQ but I have a manual. I suspect that it is the switch in the gearstick assembly... its a few pounds to buy and fitting seems to be basically quite straightforward, at least i have a cheap thing to test first.
As it is manual I don't get the display on the dash of the gear i am in... So i assume there is no BCM for this in the manual gearbox. I could be wrong... Any other ideas out there? Ta, Rob. |
Its still an on going fault this, that needs a picture and run up to finale....I'll get round to it eventually and if first will picture and schematic.
I'm also Manual gearbox and still wondering if its adjustable. |
As far as I'm aware they started using a BCM from the 01 to the 07. They used a PCI-DATA network and saved a mint on wiring costs and we [allegedly] saved the weight on MPG. Is this schematic any good as a clue to what / where ?
http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/Ro...trolmodule.png http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/Ro...mconnector.png http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/Ro...bcm_ground.png BCM Power door locks, automatic door locks, door lock inhibit (child locks), chime driver, compass, trip computer, interior lighting, power liftgate, exterior lighting headlight time delay, automatic headlights, illuminated entry, interior light fade to off feature, and instrument panel lighting |
Looks good QinteQ, must take print out of these pictures for my fault finding and referance.
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Originally Posted by Merlin
(Post 40805)
Hi
There is a recall for reverse light switch might be an idea to get this check out. Some articles suggest switch is in the wheel housing, no? |
Switch is on the end of the gearbox and after removing left side wheel the switch is seen about 1 o'clock position. Try checking for slack connections first, is so squeeze connectors with pliers then refit.
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Originally Posted by goggs
(Post 90036)
Switch is on the end of the gearbox and after removing left side wheel the switch is seen about 1 o'clock position. Try checking for slack connections first, is so squeeze connectors with pliers then refit.
It can be easily done after removing the wheel but my "Tank" was in the garage anyway so I let the grease monkey do the work :D |
Originally Posted by Vmaxxer
(Post 90038)
Tried that, but everything was connected properly so a new switch from Ebay for 23 pounds was the quick solution.
It can be easily done after removing the wheel but my "Tank" was in the garage anyway so I let the grease monkey do the work :D |
He, Vmaxxer posted the info just 2 days ago, his post is here. If you put the Mopar number in any search engine you get hundreds of hits such as this one which I chose at random. Here's a list of Jeep parts which are all identical [but check each part yourself] and includes the 'SWITCH BACK UP LAMP - Chrysler Jeep Part 05080774AA'.
https://www.chryslerforum.com/forum/...unt-%24_57.jpg |
There were no bulbs for reverse and when I put them in they came on immediately. So previous owner must have removed them. So it means reverse lights would be permanently on. What would cause this
Removed wheel and I couldnt see the switch. Am now able do some of the jobs that involve bending down due to better weather and new meds for illness |
Darkcild switch is 1 o'clock on end of gearbox viewed nearside front wheel well. Needs 24mm tube wrench to get on it due to access. Socket or ring spanner won't do.
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Checked mine to day and got one ordered after checking its operation. From picture of switch the ball on its end which goes into gearbox is obviously pressed inwards by gear selector inside box. This inward operation must operate switch to route power to rear lights.
Oh and by the way no box socket required to remove switch. Just fit ordinary 24mm socket onto switch then ratchet. Ratchet square doesn't fully lockon but catches enough as per picture |
Originally Posted by goggs
(Post 91922)
Checked mine to day and got one ordered after checking its operation. From picture of switch the ball on its end which goes into gearbox is obviously pressed inwards by gear selector inside box. This inward operation must operate switch to route power to rear lights.
Oh and by the way no box socket required to remove switch. Just fit ordinary 24mm socket onto switch then ratchet. Ratchet square doesn't fully lockon but catches enough as per picture Thank you kindly sir. Pics make it easier to identify now. No wonder i couldnt see it i was looking for the wrong thing Am i correct in saying its on front passenger side |
Yes front passenger side if you are RHD. Or left side if you are sitting in a RHD or LHD in the drivers seat looking out. Must find out if these LED reversing bulbs are stronger.
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