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xjr41 09-12-2010 06:20 AM

2001 Uk Grand Voyager - Reverse lights stopped working
 
Hi,

Can anyone help?

I have a 2001 manual Grand Voyager and both the reverse lights have just stopped working.
Is there a fuse somewhere for these, or is there a gearbox switch that tells the lights when the cars in reverse?

Thanks,
Steve.

Merlin 09-15-2010 02:41 PM

Hi
There is a recall for reverse light switch might be an idea to get this check out.

xjr41 09-17-2010 05:57 PM

Thanks for the reply. How do I go about checking this recall? Do I need to just contact my local dealer with the VIN number? Does the recall have a specific number I can quote to them?

Thanks,
Steve.

Merlin 09-19-2010 03:10 PM

No just give them your vin and ask them to run a VIP sheet as for may also have other recall outstanding.

Robert McGregor 07-19-2014 08:03 AM

Hi,

New Chrysler owner but old second hand Chrysler bought... I have the same issue in that the reversing lights have stopped working. This info is 6 years old, is it still valid or am I just going to have to speak to a mechanic and get it sorted...?

Cheers,
Rob.

Robert McGregor 07-19-2014 08:04 AM

Should have said, I have an 03 plate 2.5 Diesel Manual Grand Voyager... if that makes any difference.

Ta,
Rob.

goggs 07-19-2014 02:29 PM

Go back to 11-21-2013 No reverse lights. I've got same problem still to sort out. It seems its the BCM that controls the rear backup lights, but the signal for it must come from the Gearbox. Auto-boxes probably get signal from gear its in on dash.
I was told by my MOT Garage that I needed a new gearbox switch and asked if I wanted it ordered. Would have got it sorted by now if I had.
Wire for Backup lights in boot is White/Light Green.

2003 Voyager Ltd, 2.5CRD.

Robert McGregor 07-20-2014 12:06 PM

Brilliant - I have located a tame ex-Chrysler mechanic who I have to contact and see how helpful he is so will ask about this and if it might be any other issue and what about the costs of potential problems and will post back if I find anything new.

Cheers goggs.

Rob.

Raptor 07 07-21-2014 04:04 PM

On a US spec van at least, signal comes out of the Transmission Range Sensor in the transmission (4 speed **) to the Front Control Module (FCM). From there it goes out on the PCI data bus to the BCM then out to the lights.

** If you have a 3 speed tranny it uses an old tried and true park/neutral switch external on the tranny.

Robert McGregor 07-22-2014 02:04 PM

Cheers Raptor, it's not I'm afraid... It's a UK model 5 speed manual transmission.

(I should update my signature)...

I see that others have replaced the actual switch in the gearstick housing and the BCM unit so i'll start cheap and try the switch, though I still should call Chrysler if that was good information about a recall for this exact fault.

Cheers all,

Rob.

QinteQ 07-23-2014 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by goggs (Post 81504)
Go back to 11-21-2013 No reverse lights. I've got same problem still to sort out. It seems its the BCM that controls the rear backup lights, but the signal for it must come from the Gearbox. Auto-boxes probably get signal from gear its in on dash.
I was told by my MOT Garage that I needed a new gearbox switch and asked if I wanted it ordered. Would have got it sorted by now if I had.
Wire for Backup lights in boot is White/Light Green.

2003 Voyager Ltd, 2.5CRD.

No reverse lights dodge caravan

2001-07 Dodge Grand Caravans use the Body Control Module (BCM) to turn on the back-up lights. If you have a situation with No reverse lights dodge caravan, read this post. The BCM also controls the power door locks, automatic door locks, door lock inhibit (child locks), chime driver, compass, trip computer, interior lighting, power liftgate, exterior lighting headlight time delay, automatic headlights, illuminated entry, interior light fade to off feature, and instrument panel lighting.
The BCM looks for signal from the gear shift. If you move the shifter through all the positions and the correct gear position lights up on the instrument cluster, move on to the next step. Disconnect the BCM C2 connector. The BCM is located behind the driver’s side of the dash. Connect a fused wire from a 12v power source and apply the 12-volts to the white/light green wire on the connector. If the backup lights work, the BCM is faulty and must be replaced with a new and dealer-programmed unit
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Robert McGregor 07-24-2014 03:30 PM

Cheers QinteQ but I have a manual. I suspect that it is the switch in the gearstick assembly... its a few pounds to buy and fitting seems to be basically quite straightforward, at least i have a cheap thing to test first.

As it is manual I don't get the display on the dash of the gear i am in... So i assume there is no BCM for this in the manual gearbox.

I could be wrong...

Any other ideas out there?

Ta,

Rob.

goggs 07-24-2014 04:24 PM

Its still an on going fault this, that needs a picture and run up to finale....I'll get round to it eventually and if first will picture and schematic.
I'm also Manual gearbox and still wondering if its adjustable.

QinteQ 07-24-2014 06:15 PM

As far as I'm aware they started using a BCM from the 01 to the 07. They used a PCI-DATA network and saved a mint on wiring costs and we [allegedly] saved the weight on MPG. Is this schematic any good as a clue to what / where ?

http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/Ro...trolmodule.png

http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/Ro...mconnector.png

http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/Ro...bcm_ground.png

BCM

Power door locks, automatic door locks, door lock inhibit (child locks), chime driver, compass, trip computer, interior lighting, power liftgate, exterior lighting headlight time delay, automatic headlights, illuminated entry, interior light fade to off feature, and instrument panel lighting

goggs 07-25-2014 05:04 AM

Looks good QinteQ, must take print out of these pictures for my fault finding and referance.

darkcild101 06-18-2015 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 40805)
Hi
There is a recall for reverse light switch might be an idea to get this check out.

Did anyone ever check with hChrysler i there was a recall for rerersing lights

Some articles suggest switch is in the wheel housing, no?

goggs 06-18-2015 02:47 PM

Switch is on the end of the gearbox and after removing left side wheel the switch is seen about 1 o'clock position. Try checking for slack connections first, is so squeeze connectors with pliers then refit.

Vmaxxer 06-18-2015 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by goggs (Post 90036)
Switch is on the end of the gearbox and after removing left side wheel the switch is seen about 1 o'clock position. Try checking for slack connections first, is so squeeze connectors with pliers then refit.

Tried that, but everything was connected properly so a new switch from Ebay for 23 pounds was the quick solution.
It can be easily done after removing the wheel but my "Tank" was in the garage anyway so I let the grease monkey do the work :D

darkcild101 06-19-2015 03:40 AM


Originally Posted by Vmaxxer (Post 90038)
Tried that, but everything was connected properly so a new switch from Ebay for 23 pounds was the quick solution.
It can be easily done after removing the wheel but my "Tank" was in the garage anyway so I let the grease monkey do the work :D

Whats the proper name of the switch and part number

QinteQ 06-19-2015 06:41 AM

He, Vmaxxer posted the info just 2 days ago, his post is here. If you put the Mopar number in any search engine you get hundreds of hits such as this one which I chose at random. Here's a list of Jeep parts which are all identical [but check each part yourself] and includes the 'SWITCH BACK UP LAMP - Chrysler Jeep Part 05080774AA'.

https://www.chryslerforum.com/forum/...unt-%24_57.jpg

darkcild101 07-05-2015 02:33 PM

There were no bulbs for reverse and when I put them in they came on immediately. So previous owner must have removed them. So it means reverse lights would be permanently on. What would cause this

Removed wheel and I couldnt see the switch. Am now able do some of the jobs that involve bending down due to better weather and new meds for illness

goggs 07-07-2015 03:52 PM

Darkcild switch is 1 o'clock on end of gearbox viewed nearside front wheel well. Needs 24mm tube wrench to get on it due to access. Socket or ring spanner won't do.

goggs 10-12-2015 02:50 PM

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Checked mine to day and got one ordered after checking its operation. From picture of switch the ball on its end which goes into gearbox is obviously pressed inwards by gear selector inside box. This inward operation must operate switch to route power to rear lights.
Oh and by the way no box socket required to remove switch. Just fit ordinary 24mm socket onto switch then ratchet. Ratchet square doesn't fully lockon but catches enough as per picture

darkcild101 10-13-2015 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by goggs (Post 91922)
Checked mine to day and got one ordered after checking its operation. From picture of switch the ball on its end which goes into gearbox is obviously pressed inwards by gear selector inside box. This inward operation must operate switch to route power to rear lights.
Oh and by the way no box socket required to remove switch. Just fit ordinary 24mm socket onto switch then ratchet. Ratchet square doesn't fully lockon but catches enough as per picture


Thank you kindly sir. Pics make it easier to identify now. No wonder i couldnt see it i was looking for the wrong thing


Am i correct in saying its on front passenger side

goggs 10-13-2015 02:12 PM

Yes front passenger side if you are RHD. Or left side if you are sitting in a RHD or LHD in the drivers seat looking out. Must find out if these LED reversing bulbs are stronger.


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