Thanks chrysler tech. The mechanic has put the car back together and has said there is nothing more he can do. He said, once again, that he thinks the tcm is stuffed and I will have to take it to chrysler in city. I received an e-mail back from the company in the States that have told me that the TCM's here are different to the TCM's in the US so I guess I can't go that way either whcih would have been a lot cheaper. I have found a guy in our town who is a auto electrition that says his scan tool would actualy get the trans codes so fingers crossed he actually can get them. Is there a way to tell a trans code from an engine code? Do the trans codes display as P0*** or are they displayed differently?
Does any body know if there is a way to change which gear the car chooses for limp? I know it chooses second as it is suppose to be just enough to get to a repairer, but I couldn't really drive her 300kms in second, think it would do more harm than good and not to mention a painfully slow trip.

 

you don't scan PCM!!! you scan TCM!!!! TCM codes do NOT have P0700 listed. Again I state, you need to get the transmission computer codes. I am and have been willing to help you but you need to reciprocate!!!

I know of a way to change gears without the computer however this requires some equipment that very few have.

ANY quality scanner can access transmission data. Whether it be Snap-on, OTC, Kent Moore, Matco, Miller, Mac and so on. A code reader non-scanner tool can not access the transmission computer. The engine computer transmission codes are vague and not specific enough to determine actual fault

 

"Is there a way to tell a trans code from an engine code? Do the trans codes display as P0*** or are they displayed differently? "

Are u kidding me come on man I know 22chrysler has told u at least 100 times that u cant get the tranny codes unless u have a good enough scanner what more is it going to take to convince u that U NEED A SCANNER THAT IS CAPABLE OF GETTING INTO THE TRANNY COMPUTER END OF STORY,THE BOTTOM LINE,THE BUCKS STOPS HERE, THE END OF THE WORLD.

 

As I said last post the guy I spoke to yeterday said his scan tool would read the trans codes. I explained that the trany mechanic was giving me engine codes and that you told me I needed tranny codes and he said he could retrieve them. I only ask about the codes again so I know if he is reading the right codes or just the same stuff as the last guy so I don't waist more of your time and my time posting the wrong codes. If I know if they are only numerial or combinations of letters and numerials then I would be a step closer to solving this problem. I know this must be very, very frustrating for you both and any one else with the knowledge that is reading this but like I said before I am absalutaly clueless to all this and can only relay what I'm being told. If I had the money in my pocket now I would purchase myself a good scan tool but I don't so I have to try to relay what little info I receive.
Sorry for being so frustrating to deal with.

 

Thank you so much for that 22. You have explained that beautifully for some one like me who hasn't a clue as to how or what they are pulling with there scanners. I will try to get the car into the auto elictrician and fingers crossed he can delve a little deeper for me.
As you said before the TCM should be the last thing to be replace and trust me at $1500 just for supply and a minimum of a two week wait that is the last thing I want replaced also.
One other question that is probably as dumb as it sounds and probably as easy an answer as i think, but I will ask any way, will driving 300kms in a car stuck in 2nd gear doing 60km/h do a heap of damage to the longevity of this motor and to the cam lobes sitting at that constant rev range? I would think it would but when I asked the trans mechanic this he said "I don't think it should hurt but can't say it definetly won't hurt"
Once again I do appoligise for my rant and fowl mouth and do take back what I have said and called you as you are clearly helping me way more than I disserve. Thanks once again for helping me out, it is greatly appreciated.

 

Yes I was thinking of the trailer on the back of a truck mainly because I couldn't stand the 5-6 hour trip it would absalutaly kill me. And yes I agree that $1500 is stupid but it gets worse, then they need to add fitting and updating the unit to match my vehicle so who knows what the final price could be.

I know it is completely off track but a local magazine, called Street Machine, piblished an article not too long ago about some pc wiz kid who played around with a diesle in a dodge or chev coupe and was pumping something like 15oo horse power with the fuel consumtion of a tiny toyota hatch. Would be brilliant in a mini van, speed of a sports car plus the comfort of a house.

 

So here is an update on my still not fixed car. I trailered my Voyager to another town where a buisness has a Snap On Midus dianostic tool. As had just received the tool (which just cost them $12500) they had the snap on reps there and used my car as a demo vehicle. Well they hooked the tool up and found the usual "disconected battery" and also a "tcm internal rom fault" I told them that I had been advised here that I needed the TCM codes and once again was told that they are the codes. They said that it told them the procedure to reset the tcm and did this but every time they went for a drive it would go back into limp mode. They say they reset it 6 times and with the same results. I mentioned again that I needed the actual TCM codes and they said they musn't be able to get into US vehicles tcm with their Australian tool and said I'll have to take it to City Chrysler and hand over the coin for a new TCM. I think I am stuck with having to pay the rediculious amount Chrysler are charging. Pain in the butt considering I have already payed $250 to a trans mechanic who couldn't fix it then the hire of a trailer and the fuel of towing there and back still not to have any results.
Does anybody know if I was to send my TCM to the US to a TCM rebuilder will they be able to actually fix the issue or wil it be more waisted money?
On another note why have the last few posts from 22 been removed? Wanted to re-read the info he posted.

 

Scratch that last question. I looked over all the posts and it seems 22 has edited and deleted them for some reason.

 

It appears C22 is gone from the forum or does not post anymore. He got into it with another member and was warned and/or banned.

I am a little confused... you have a US spec van in Australia? Perhaps when the Snap on midas tool was hooked up and they reset the module, they now really messed up your TCM? Did they get the rom fault before or after they reset the module 6 times. Just what does the reset do with their tool? Does it reload a program?

These are just guesses but if this is a US van in another country, were the snap on reps made aware of this before they started tinkering?

Fixit

 

Thanks for the reply mrfixit. Yes the Chrysler Voyager is a US based car but converted to right hand drive by Chrysler/Dodge for the Aussie marked. I have contacted a company in the States that sell "plug and play" TCMs but they said mine is slighlty different from the US model so they can't supply a replacement. Not actually sure what would be different in them exept nearly $1000 in price, it is ridiculous what Chrysler Australia want to charge for a replacment.
I have had this fault right from the start of my problem. Have taken it to 3 different workshops, a general mechanic that deal with the other voyager that is getting around my town, a transmision specialist and a large GM workshop, all have said the same faults have come up. The only difference this time is that the snap on tool got the errors P1792 "Battery was disconected" and P0605 "Internal Trans Controller - ROM FAIL" ( my research on the net says that the P0605 is an "Internal Control Module Read Only Memory (ROM) Error", not sure if it is the same thing)
I really don't know what to try. I may just have to bite the bullet and pay the $1500 - $3000 to replace the TCM through Chrysler (which I don't really want to do as I don't have that kind of money just laying around) Any sugestions would be greatly appreciated or even a phone number or two to good/great Chrysler/Dodge trans mechanics that I can call and have a talk to.
Thanks in advance