My kind of humour Q :)

QinteQ said:

I think you read AlanC's comment with too much attitude go back and read it in your best friends voice or mothers voice and see how the advice sounds... we all have frustrations with our cars when we cant figure things out , I'm new here too just texted my first post about my 07 T&C this place sounds like a goldmine , don't give up on it come back tomorrow and read the comments again when your not frustrated

Ta for your advice, I'm not frustrated, don't have your year model or build, or even manufacturer. The Chrysler full workshop manuals are available for anyone my friend. The location has been posted hundreds of times on this forum.

My tagline tells all about my model, my post suggests find and eliminate cheap DIY 1st before expensive expert help is needed. Put in context yes do sensor before moving on. I chose because it's cheap to do, common to all models, languages and logic control. Best of luck.
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I'm not sure if Leo's comment was aimed at you QinteQ.

Leo, like any of us is frustrated to hell with his broken car and his own personal lack of personal capacity to understand diagnostic rules. We know it's not a magic bullet but a ladder of ranked elimination based on predicability and experience.

The search on this site would lead him to a cathedral sized collective of recent/past model specific experiences of others having similar/same problems. Example would be 07 might well have ESP so same symptoms different diag & repair.

We limeys don't have a wealth of offers of free tests, they anecdotally on at least this and other sites to have access. One hing for sure attacking posters who respond to his plea will only lead to slammed doors. You take care of your tribe Al, best of luck.

Well said.