Many states have idling laws that limit the amount of time a vehicle is permitted to idle. Some allow 20 minutes, but many allow only 15 minutes. I think Chrysler just has to comply with the strictest rules.

 

Yes, I suppose that is why the remote start only allows 2 restarts...as for my engine, the 4.0L is the V6. 251hp. I would imagine it was probably the old 4.0L that was in the Jeep Cherokee? I don't really know. It is very strong and pulls well, smooth too. Coupled with the 6 speed tranny, the upshifts are like butter and are vitually seemless. Surprising for a Chrysler. I thought I would feel the transitions more...

 

Ok...so an average car "wastes" approx 1/2 gallon per hour idle. IF the car gets 30 miles per gallon, that would be 15 miles wasted. At the average of 60mph, that would be 15 minutes of driving time. So...1 hr idle = 15 mins driving time. Hence, my quote, "Cars that idle waste very little gas..."

In my mind, wasting the same amount of fuel for 1 hour vs 15 minutes is wasting very little gas. If that one gallon cost me $2.85, let's say $3 for an easy number, it cost me $1.50 every morning to get into a warm car without 6 inches of snow on it. I'd say it's worth it all around.

Erik

 

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I have no interest in arguing with you.
but, just becouse it's convinient and cheap for you, that does not necceserraly mean that it's OK.
I understand your wish to get into the warm car (is it really snowing EVERY night?) but you will think differently when things change. and they will change.

in europe, 1 gallon would cost you around 6 $.
oil will not last forever. when it hits 200 US$ per barrel, will you think the same way?

so, go ahead.
warm up your car every day, I couldn't care less. it's your money.
but don't tell me you are not wasting fuel and not polluting.
cheers.

 

I agree not to argue, but you can't just make things up. I never said I wasn't wasting fuel, I said it used very little fuel (and .5 gallons in1 hr is very little when you burn through that in 15 minutes driving)...and I never said anything about pollution. And yes, in Michigan, it snowed almost every day in the winter.

Erik

 

peace

my country is on the mediteranian sea. we have more warm then cold days.
but inland, it also snows during winter. every winter.

no matter what you do or how long you idle your car, it's not going to melt the snow on the roof of the car, or the area around it.
you can't clean the path to your car without the snow showel.
even 2 hours of idling is not going to warm up bearings, tyres, brakes, shocks....

if it makes your life easier, go for it.

but I still claim: long idling is a waste of fuell (different from driving, becouse with driving you get somewhere) and terrible pollution.

if you want to hear about it, just say so and I'll start a new thread about engine working conditions and wear in cold weather.

peace again.