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Old 07-22-2013, 06:38 PM
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Default Is it time for American carmakers to give up on dual-clutch transmissions? [w/poll]

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Last week, in the midst of Detroit's first days seeking relief in Chapter 9 of the bankruptcy code, Automotive News contributor Larry P. Vellequette penned an editorial suggesting that American car companies raise the white flag on dual clutch transmissions and give up on trying to persuade Americans to buy cars fitted with them. Why? Because, Vellequette says, like CVT transmissions, they "just don't sound right or feel right to American drivers." (Note: In the article, it's not clear if Vellequette is arguing against wet-clutch and dry-clutch DCTs or just dry-clutch DCTs, which is what Ford and Chrysler use.) The article goes on to state that Ford and Chrysler have experimented with DCTs and that both consumers and the automotive press haven't exactly given them glowing reviews, despite their quicker shifts and increased fuel efficiency potential compared to torque-converter automatic transmissions.

Autoblog staffers who weighed in on the relevance of DCTs in American cars generally disagreed with the blanket nature of Vellequette's statement that they don't sound or feel right, but admit that their lack of refinement compared to traditional automatics can be an issue for consumers. That's particularly true in workaday cars like the Ford Focus and Dodge Dart, both of which have come in for criticism in reviews and owner surveys. From where we sit, the higher-performance orientation of such transmissions doesn't always meld as well with the marching orders of everyday commuters (particularly if drivers haven't been educated as to the transmission's benefits and tradeoffs), and in models not fitted with paddle shifters, it's particularly hard for drivers to use a DCT to its best advantage.

Finally, we also note that DCT tuning is very much an evolving science. For instance, Autoblog editors who objected to dual-clutch tuning in the Dart have more recently found the technology agreeable in the Fiat 500L. Practice makes perfect - or at least more acceptable.

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Old 08-11-2013, 06:20 AM
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Over here in UK, autoboxes that are not hydraulic with a torque converter seem to be viewed with suspicion. The ones I call "manumatic" which are just a manual box with motors/solenoids to do the shifting and declutching for you seem to be grudgingly accepted. I think CVTs and dual-clutch autoboxes are not liked because of the expense of repairing them, and the effect on second-hand values. Ford's CVTs are partic. noted for this effect. Indeed, on a car of a few years of age, a faulty automatic of these types could mean an economic write-off.
In any case, most british drivers prefer manual boxes.

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