RT also very popular around for disabled here and 90% is diesel version.

You ask for honest opinion and it will be a offen visit in the dealer workshop.

I would stick to the RS model if money is an issue or RT 2012 or later and only gas.

Not to offend any but the RG 2,8CRD is not a very plessent drive compare to gas model and to manny problems chrysler only made the diesel version to please the european marked with parts made for a gas model.

Engine support is to weak and wire harness can't stand the vibration from the diesel engine and the hard shift/high torque compare to the gas.

Even the update in the transmission and re.program moduel didn't help .

 

Dieselvoyager, sadly here in the UK we have no Chrysler dealers Fiat pulled the plug on Chrysler in the UK in 2014, money is no problem, and I always prefer petrol engines, BUT to get a Mk5 Chrysler Grand Voyager with a petrol engine here in the UK, is like finding a honest MP.

 

We got same problem with dealers , can't you get private imported model ?

 

The 3.8 does come up occasionally.
There was one locally when I was looking for my diesel, and there's one on Autotrader just now.
For spares, at this time, there's still some avaliability from ex Chrysler dealers.

 

Dieselvoyager & Scotsman4th I am thinking of buying one from my birth town, Detroit, Michigan. USA and ship it to here UK.

 

Detroit69, if you decide to do that, post up your process and costs to get it off the boat in the UK.
I've always had a hankering for some big engined American classic, and only done basic research, but it would be interesting to see the costs involved and how to go about it.

 

Very interesting read. Honestly my personal experiences having been with the 3.8, which belonged to a friend in the US and my own 3.3 here in the UK. Just for the record I loved the 3.8 and really searched for one here in the UK but just couldn't find anything. My only exposure to the diesel's were through my cousin who had a 2.5 with a manual trans and his 2.8 which replaced the 2.5.

The 2.5 was just painfully slow. On a trip to Inverness with the quaud bikes. I had one bike in the back and 2 more on the trailer, all he had was the camping gear and his brother and he still couldn't keep up to my 3.3. And locally here on the Pennies it was just dreadful on all the hills here.

His 2.8 had a lot more power but God damn it was problematic, just one thing after another. It was very low mileage, had belonged to a older guy,had a full service history etc. Yet in the time he owned it, he spent more money on repairs than my old 3.3 has cost me in the entire time I've owned it,and that also includes what I paid for it.

So, I know you can always get a bad one in the bunch but, given the age of these now and what I'm really wanting to spend, jumping into a diesel makes me a little nervous. Yes I know there's better fuel economy but given my predicted mileage over the coming months its really not going to be that big of a deal.

Decisions, decisions!

 

Depending on the time of year and whether or not it would fit inside a container but I've seen prices to a UK port including insurance costing as little as £1500, this can also be cut back further because some shipping agents will offer up any remaining space to anyone wishing to ship other stuff. That's out of an east cost port. Although once here you have to add import duties and then VAT, there's a sliding scale so it depends on what you have paid for the vehicle. Plus shipping to you and UK registration lights conversion etc.

Search online or look out for a Mag called Classic American, they used to have a listing in the rear with shipping agents.

Older vehicles are easier especially when it comes to lights. Most American stuff still have combined brake and indicators where there's no separate orange indicator, the red brake light flashes instead. Also front orange running lights rather than while side lights and often these are part of the front indicator. So sorting this in a newer vehicle without it throwing a code and warning light can be a little difficult. Although very simple in older ones.

 

Vonhofinvule you are right

you can drive 10 different Voyager diesels and thay all act diffrent.

Either the engine is rough og not pulling right or difficult to start trany is shifting hard or somtimes mis or near mis a gear . or slow to get in gear from neutral.

many times I think the people working on them don't understand how it works and also chrysler engineers didn't put the work in to them . I mean program ECM in right way to sort out sensor failure (out of range) . Saw a tecnical magasin stat car sensors after 3-5 years 50% is out of range . So chrysler might cheet here to coop with warrenty in the US 100000miles with out major repairs.

Even an old GS/NS from 1996 tell you is coolant sensor is bad or thermostat is defect , it dos this over time , so if you don't reach normal temp it will set an error.

This is not the case with GS and RG diesels , My old GS 2,5TD had a bad coolant sensor for years and milages was not very good it turn out the sensor was 18deg.C behinde all the time and offen it would not reach normal temp and was running cold . the trigger point is 65deg.C for the ECM and thermostat is 82deg.C . Had an external temp sensor K-type and it never reach 82deg.C in winter time change the thermostat but is was the same.

This leads to why the glowplugs didn't last very long course of the 65deg.C point is where glowplugs is turn of in start moment.

I sure this is the same with RG diesels , thermostat is **** to fail , and it's fail saft so it will be open and engine will never reach normal temp. You aux heater is offen not working course it's not ment to run all the time it burns is self up.

To low running temp will cause the engine to fill with slug/cream in EGR and sensors air mass and intake sensor . The temp gauge needle is around 3 mm wide and this is round 15-20 deg.C so if needle is not horizontal or 1mm below in normal running condition you got a problem.

Diesels need high running temp 80-90deg.C to evaporate internal the right way with out leaving sticky stuf on every thing internal . Crank vent is througe the intake This is a balance course to get right emission engine temp need to be low but what do you want nice green emission or a trouble free engine.

Keep engine temp high especially when car are driving short trips , many people was not suppose to buy diesels course of short trips.

 

Vonhofinvule what year was your friends 2008? did it have the 6 speed auto gear box? was it any good?.
Dieselvoyager your wealth of info on the 2.8 CRD engine will be just what I need. The only diesel engine I have ever owned and worked on is the 2.8 TD in my Mitsubishi Delica auto. Is the 2.8 engine in the 2005 and 2009 the same?