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Old 01-18-2019, 07:33 AM
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04 T&C... recently lost horn function, it DOES sound when locking the van. Fuse and relay are good in the engine compartment fuse panel. MY thought is contacts in the steering wheel pad(airbag) or a bad clock spring assembly. No other problems from my fine almost 200K mile ride... Any thoughts/suggestions?
 
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Old 01-18-2019, 09:31 PM
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I think you have it figured out.
Now to figure out which it is.
 
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Old 01-19-2019, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BiliTheAxe View Post
I think you have it figured out.
Now to figure out which it is.
Thanks for the reply ...But are you not going to post me the "magic bullet" fix for my problem???...LOL and ROFL
 
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Old 01-19-2019, 11:31 AM
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OK, then here is a magic bullet fix.
Install aftermarket horn button.

Optional magic bullet fix.
Purchase a squeeze bulb type bicycle horn at walmarts and mount it to drivers side mirror.
 

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Old 01-19-2019, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BiliTheAxe View Post
OK, then here is a magic bullet fix.
Install aftermarket horn button.
ROFL!...I thought of that, and would probably be easier to find and hit when needed than the way the contacts are positioned on the steering wheel center cover pad! Especially in the COLD weather we're in now for a couple more months!
Actually was thinking of removing the 2 piece column cover and checking to see if I could get at the contacts to the clock spring. have seen those "tarnish" and not allow certain functions of various steering wheel mounted controls.
 
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UPDATE: Thanks to the extreme cold weather, it took some time to sit in a cold van and take column covers off to check things. But the other day it was warm enough to do so. I've determined that it is a bad clock spring unit, but did not take the steering wheel off to inspect further. The housing cover was loaded with grit and grime from age, and suspect that the contact rings inside are in similar condition, even though all other function are working fine. Also noted that the unit did not feel securely fastened, as there was some "wobble" felt.
NOW before I go and order in a replacement, I have ONE QUESTION to pose to anyone "in the know"... Does the clock spring assembly come WITH the turn signal canceling cam? My left has not canceled since buying the van 2 1/2 yrs. ago, and my donor van was the same. The cam was there and not broken but was loose and wobbly, with no way to inspect further without full disassembly of the clock spring from the column.
I've looked at illustrations on a few parts sites but have yet to find one that definitely shows that cam(white plastic) with the clock spring. Would love to be able to "kill 2 birds with 1 stone"!
EDIT: Scratch the cancel cam question...Finally found a pic, and YES it is incorporated in the clock spring assembly!
 

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