Strange problem -rear door and fuel filler flap malfunction
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Strange problem -rear door and fuel filler flap malfunction
I have a 2006 Chrysler Grand Voyager 2.8 CRD Ltd XS (UK version).
Is there any connection between the fuel filler flap and the rear passenger door? I ask that question because something strange happened yesterday. I opened the flap, fuelled the car and locked the fuel filler cap as normal, however I then found that I could not close the fuel filler flap properly. It got half way to closing then would not go any further without some resistance and diverting itself upwards such that it would not fit back within its hole in the rear panel.
I tried pushing and pulling the flap for several minutes but couldn’t do anything to make it fit, since there was nothing visibly wrong inside the fuel filler flap area, so I gave up and left the flap open.
I then started to open the rear passenger door on the same side as the flap - and suddenly the flap “popped” back into place and now functions normally!
However, the downside is that the rear passenger door on that side, which is electric, now no longer opens! I can start to open it by about, say, 1 inch but then I meet resistance and the door won’t open any further, the electric mechanism then kicks in and the door closes itself electrically (therefore the electric mechanism of the door is still working properly). The same thing happens whether I try and open the door manually or by using the overhead switch.
This seems like a very odd problem because the fuel filler flap seems to me to be totally separate from the rear sliding door; the flap being located within the separate enclosed panel above / around the rear wheel ......so how can it prevent the rear door from opening?
All theories on what has gone wrong, together with how I can fix it and get the door working again, will be gratefully received.
Is there any connection between the fuel filler flap and the rear passenger door? I ask that question because something strange happened yesterday. I opened the flap, fuelled the car and locked the fuel filler cap as normal, however I then found that I could not close the fuel filler flap properly. It got half way to closing then would not go any further without some resistance and diverting itself upwards such that it would not fit back within its hole in the rear panel.
I tried pushing and pulling the flap for several minutes but couldn’t do anything to make it fit, since there was nothing visibly wrong inside the fuel filler flap area, so I gave up and left the flap open.
I then started to open the rear passenger door on the same side as the flap - and suddenly the flap “popped” back into place and now functions normally!
However, the downside is that the rear passenger door on that side, which is electric, now no longer opens! I can start to open it by about, say, 1 inch but then I meet resistance and the door won’t open any further, the electric mechanism then kicks in and the door closes itself electrically (therefore the electric mechanism of the door is still working properly). The same thing happens whether I try and open the door manually or by using the overhead switch.
This seems like a very odd problem because the fuel filler flap seems to me to be totally separate from the rear sliding door; the flap being located within the separate enclosed panel above / around the rear wheel ......so how can it prevent the rear door from opening?
All theories on what has gone wrong, together with how I can fix it and get the door working again, will be gratefully received.
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I have a 2006 Chrysler Grand Voyager 2.8 CRD Ltd XS (UK version).
Is there any connection between the fuel filler flap and the rear passenger door? I ask that question because something strange happened yesterday. I opened the flap, fuelled the car and locked the fuel filler cap as normal, however I then found that I could not close the fuel filler flap properly. It got half way to closing then would not go any further without some resistance and diverting itself upwards such that it would not fit back within its hole in the rear panel.
I tried pushing and pulling the flap for several minutes but couldn’t do anything to make it fit, since there was nothing visibly wrong inside the fuel filler flap area, so I gave up and left the flap open.
I then started to open the rear passenger door on the same side as the flap - and suddenly the flap “popped” back into place and now functions normally!
However, the downside is that the rear passenger door on that side, which is electric, now no longer opens! I can start to open it by about, say, 1 inch but then I meet resistance and the door won’t open any further, the electric mechanism then kicks in and the door closes itself electrically (therefore the electric mechanism of the door is still working properly). The same thing happens whether I try and open the door manually or by using the overhead switch.
This seems like a very odd problem because the fuel filler flap seems to me to be totally separate from the rear sliding door; the flap being located within the separate enclosed panel above / around the rear wheel ......so how can it prevent the rear door from opening?
All theories on what has gone wrong, together with how I can fix it and get the door working again, will be gratefully received.
Is there any connection between the fuel filler flap and the rear passenger door? I ask that question because something strange happened yesterday. I opened the flap, fuelled the car and locked the fuel filler cap as normal, however I then found that I could not close the fuel filler flap properly. It got half way to closing then would not go any further without some resistance and diverting itself upwards such that it would not fit back within its hole in the rear panel.
I tried pushing and pulling the flap for several minutes but couldn’t do anything to make it fit, since there was nothing visibly wrong inside the fuel filler flap area, so I gave up and left the flap open.
I then started to open the rear passenger door on the same side as the flap - and suddenly the flap “popped” back into place and now functions normally!
However, the downside is that the rear passenger door on that side, which is electric, now no longer opens! I can start to open it by about, say, 1 inch but then I meet resistance and the door won’t open any further, the electric mechanism then kicks in and the door closes itself electrically (therefore the electric mechanism of the door is still working properly). The same thing happens whether I try and open the door manually or by using the overhead switch.
This seems like a very odd problem because the fuel filler flap seems to me to be totally separate from the rear sliding door; the flap being located within the separate enclosed panel above / around the rear wheel ......so how can it prevent the rear door from opening?
All theories on what has gone wrong, together with how I can fix it and get the door working again, will be gratefully received.
- its to stop a passenger or anyone else opening that door and slicing off a hand / filler cap / fuel pump
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Thanks for the responses so far.
I can see it makes perfect sense that the rear passenger door on the fuel filler side should not be opened manually or electrically when the fuel filler flap is open.
I presume, therefore, that somehow my Voyager “thinks” that the fuel flap is still open, even though it is closed, and therefore will not allow the door to be opened.
Does this mean there is a sensor somewhere that detects that the flap is open – can’t see anything obvious in the filler area? If so can someone advise where the sensor is and how I can access it please to see what may have gone wrong?
I can see it makes perfect sense that the rear passenger door on the fuel filler side should not be opened manually or electrically when the fuel filler flap is open.
I presume, therefore, that somehow my Voyager “thinks” that the fuel flap is still open, even though it is closed, and therefore will not allow the door to be opened.
Does this mean there is a sensor somewhere that detects that the flap is open – can’t see anything obvious in the filler area? If so can someone advise where the sensor is and how I can access it please to see what may have gone wrong?
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Check the link is in place. Removal instructions below
(1)Remove left quarter trim panel.
(2) Remove water shield patch covering access hole
in C-pillar.
(3) Disengage fuel filler lockout link from clip on
fuel fill blocker latch arm (Fig. 12).
(4) Open fuel fill door.
(5) Remove screws holding fuel filler housing to
fuel filler tube neck.
(6) Reaching inside fuel filler housing, release clips
holding housing to outer quarter panel.
(7) Remove fuel filler housing and lockout link
from vehicle.
(8) Disengage clip holding link to fuel fill door
(Fig. 13).
(9) Remove link from fuel fill door.(1)Remove left quarter trim panel.
(2) Remove water shield patch covering access hole
in C-pillar.
(3) Disengage fuel filler lockout link from clip on
fuel fill blocker latch arm (Fig. 12).
(4) Open fuel fill door.
(5) Remove screws holding fuel filler housing to
fuel filler tube neck.
(6) Reaching inside fuel filler housing, release clips
holding housing to outer quarter panel.
(7) Remove fuel filler housing and lockout link
from vehicle.
(8) Disengage clip holding link to fuel fill door
(Fig. 13).
Last edited by travelmad; Apr 29, 2013 at 11:15 AM. Reason: check link
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