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John Norrish 06-19-2015 06:46 AM

Voyager 2.5D non start?
 
Drove this morning to the Dentist, about 1/2 hour drive, parked up, came out and engine turned over but would not start, locked and unlocked car on blip and still no start, opened bonnet, couldn't see owt out of place so tried again, noticed as I let the key go it tried to start on two occasions, then started fine, drove home calling at Pharmacy on way and started OK, so any ideas Peeps?

goggs 06-19-2015 12:59 PM

Info on car. You've got Voyager TD. Is it a CRD. Sounds like air in fuel as its running back to tank. Possibly the old fuel filter housing fault. How about codes, key dance if you can. Could go on but gives a clue...

John Norrish 06-19-2015 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by goggs (Post 90052)
Info on car. You've got Voyager TD. Is it a CRD. Sounds like air in fuel as its running back to tank. Possibly the old fuel filter housing fault. How about codes, key dance if you can. Could go on but gives a clue...


Sorry new to Voyagers, steep learning Curve!! its a 2003 2.5 CRD all filters replaced about 2k ago before we drove it to France, I have not looked at the rear fuel filter as a bit immobile at the mo, please tell what is this key dance you talk of? I agree it could of been fuel run back, but was also thinking if the back of the ignition switch had a hissy fit?

Vmaxxer 06-19-2015 02:47 PM

Key dance see: https://www.chryslerforum.com/forum/...y-dance-21820/

John Norrish 06-20-2015 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by Vmaxxer (Post 90056)


Thank you for that, the Code is P0340 am I correct that it is this?

P0340 Camshaft position sensor “A” - range or performance problem (bank 1)

OR is something else causing this code to be shown? I'm confused with the term Bank 1

AND where in their infinate wisdom do they hide the sensor

tfb 06-20-2015 11:52 AM

P0340 can either be camshaft or crankshaft sensor related. The key dance gives you a high level view of the fault code, there are "sub" faults beneath the P0340 which give a bit more info but a keydance won't show that.

You have three sensor - one on each cam and one on the crack plus the wiring back to the ECU any of which could be faulty..... OR the p0340 could have been a stored fault code from sometime in the past.

you could check the connections to the sensors and try jiggling with the wiring loom to recreate the fault, but intermittent faults are always a bugger to diagnose. The cam sensors are on the right hand side of the cam covers when looking into the egine bay from the front.

Regards
Richard

goggs 06-20-2015 03:47 PM

Is it that simple this time, code to Camshaft sensor but as tfb says it may be a stored old code. Hope this is the answer John and not looking into fuel pressure loss in HP system. Mind the feedback please as your engine is same as mine.

John Norrish 06-21-2015 12:35 AM

Thank you all for the help and Reply's, as said this type of fault is a sod to find until it dies completely, am I glad I got out of the game before electrics were properly introduced on Denzil Diesels!!

kkc 03-10-2016 01:43 PM

Hello John, Just experienced the same problems and fault code (P0340) you did. Did you ever find the cause? It's night time now so I'll check air in the fuel lines and camshaft sensor wiring tomorrow. Thanks, KKC

John Norrish 03-10-2016 01:56 PM

Sorry I failed to reply, it was the Cam Shaft sensor, replaced and been as good as new.

kkc 03-11-2016 01:34 AM

Great thanks for the update....! I just replaced my Camshaft Position Sensor and the motor seems reliable starting again.

Interestingly, two other problems seemed to have also been resolved (these have been building up over the last few month). The first was excessive black smoke under heavy acceleration when the engine is hot. Now there is very little smoke just at the beginning of the acceleration phase.

The second was a surge in engine revolutions when heavily accelerating, typically up the long hill near our house, when the engine would suddenly jump from 2000 to about 2500 revs and immediately die back down to 2000 again. I did not notice this surge during test runs despite pushing the acceleration very hard.

After 14 years and 100k miles, I think it makes sense to renew all if not many of the sensors. I will go ahead and do this over the spring break.

Update 2016 -3 12: Drove 400 kms this weekend. Car runs really well....!!!

Update 2016 03 12 Later in the day: aaargh... car stopped on the highway again. It's been about 500kms since changing the camshaft position sensor. Wiring to that sensor looks good. Looks like I only fixed part of the problem. Anyone have any other ideas as to cause? I will now change over the Crankshaft Position Sensor tomorrow. Does anyone know if you have to drain the oil before removing that sensor? If not I'll find out the messy way...!!!


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