Hi, Im wondering if anyone can help me, I bought my Chrysler Grand Voyager 2.8 CRD Limited XS in October. within 2 weeks I had it back at the garage as I was having intermittent starting issues (cold and warm) and getting the P1130 code when doing the key turn process. It has been back and forth for the last 6 months now with them either not knowing the fault, could not replicate it, could not read the codes etc etc. They have done the following: replaced fuel filter, tested and cleaned injectors (all came back fine) replaced battery. The latest round of repairs on Wednesday this week was to change the high pressure fuel pump as they believed the fault to be a valve within the pump itself. Whilst he was at it he changed the air filter (he says it was clogged - he did show me but I haven't a clue what I was looking at) and also the alternator belt? as he said it needed doing (he showed me that too but again I don't have a clue).


Now since yesterday the car has been randomly stalling at junctions (conveniently when you're halfway out of said junction) and error code P0100 has appeared.


I have decided that I am not taking my car back there, I'm going to my trusted mechanic, however he is away until Thursday.


Also my fuel consumption is horrendous, 18mpg around town and 30ish on a run. The garage tried to tell me that is good but I don't think it is, its always been this bad and nothing they have done has improved it. I have also tried fuel additives to try and clean it out a bit.


I was thinking of doing two things - 1. disconnect the battery to clear the codes so that I am only getting genuine up to date info rather than the millions of old codes, 2. cleaning the MAF with electrical contact cleaner. Both of these I feel I can manage after plenty of google and forum help but could anyone suggest anything else or any possible solutions that I could maybe take to my trusted mechanic. I am thinking I have an air/fuel mix problem somewhere hence the massive fuel consumption.


Thanks

 

Anyone buying a 2.8CRD and hoping for more than 33MPG on a run should not have bought a Voyager. Given the series of problems and the amount of idle / testing time, the fuel consumption is not too bad for winter-time, you should expect to lose about 3-4MPG in the winter and gain it back in the summer.

Clearly the first garage are playing 'parts-darts', hopefully with their own money. If it was with their own money then I applaud them at least they are trying to fix it with their own coin and apart from being without a vehicle it costs you nothing. A word of warning most fully equipped garages [other than Chrysler Main Dealer(s)] in the UK will be totally incapable of reading anything but emissions codes as will be the case with most peripatetic repairmen.

Best of luck with your trusted mechanic, tfb will be along later to offer advice.

 

The P0100 is an error detected either with the MAF or the amount of air measured is not what the ECU expects it to be.

The P1130 is either a fault with the fuel rail pressure sensor or the pressure reported back to the ECU is not what it expects it to be - might be because there is no pressure.

The high pressure fuel pump is just that, a high pressure pump with a electronic valve that controls the pressure. The first thing to confirm is that the pump is getting a sufficent supply of fuel from the tank with no air in it. This can be done by feeding from a temporary filter and feed pipe from a jerry can balanced in the footwell.
If the fault remains then you need to look at the high pressure side. Make sure the pressure relief valve on the fuel rail is opening and closing correctly

Regards
Richard

 

Yes fuel rail pressure sensor has been showing its ugly head in a few likened faults on here quite recently...

 

Thanks for your help, disconnecting the battery didn't clear the codes so I'm going to pop it to a guy I know with a reader and get them cleared. It hasn't stalled since I did a long motorway run so hoping that's blown whatever was causing the problem away. Will update with what occurs as I've seen the p1130 is quite notorious

 

So it appears the p1130 I was getting is an old code as it hasn't come back. The car is now back to stalling though and I've figured out that it will only stall if I've been sat with it running for a while before continuing (ie on the school run waiting for the kids) if I turn it off whilst I'm sat it doesn't do it. It is a relatively short time frame that it is sat before it stalls and quite annoying. It is also haemorrhaging diesel, even more so than before. A few forum posts I've read have suggested looking for leaks after the maf sensor but I'm a bit out of my depth with it now. Trusted mechanic has extended his holiday until Sunday so will have to have it in at the start of next week. Has anyone had anything similar?

 

do you mean it is leaking fuel or are you just burning a lot?

Has the P0100 code returned?

Regards
Richard

 

I am not sure, I'd say burning a lot as I've not noticed any obvious leaks. Yes the p0100 is back, I've also noticed a humming sound when switched off which is quite loud from inside the car but barely audible from outside and goes off when you turn the key to the on position 2 or 3 times. Not sure if this is connected. Starting to really regret buying this car which is a shame as I'm sure when it's working fully it's a lovely car

 

So I took the car to a specialist diagnostic garage (not main dealer but got all the kit) as my local garage couldn't retrieve the codes. Seems that all the High BUS side isn't communicating with the diagnostic equipment (he triple checked it with different machines). So this explains why when taken back under warranty the mechanic at the garage 'couldn't read the codes' therefore assumed there was nothing wrong! This guy also unplugged something under the bonnet which should cause the engine management light to come on and lo and behold no engine management light on the dash. It definitely works as it lights up when you start the car. So my next move is to have the vehicle back to the garage where it was purchased (its booked in tomorrow morning) and insist that it gets sorted once and for all. So I have been driving round for 6 months with a possible wiring fault (worst case new ecu needed) doing who knows what damage to the car. Suppose I should consider myself lucky it still runs!!! I have also decided that if it isn't fixed correctly this time (and I will be checking it out with the specialist place I had it to Friday) I am going to take it to Chrysler (via this garage as his mate is the manager at the dealer) and then via small claims court. I cant believe this has been going on this long and they should have spotted the non-communication months ago!!! I thank you all for your help so far and will definitely add further updates