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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 03:17 PM
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Hi guys, i've got a problem with the engine under-tray on my 2006 2.8 Voyager. Every time i drive over speed bumps even the slightest bump it scrapes and it does it hard,The thing is already broken on few places..... Do i have strut/spring coil problem and the front end sits too low? Has anyone experienced it? Any help appreciated.

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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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Funny you should mention this! I am having the same problem with my GV 2.8L XS 2007 year car! I changed both the front shocks and springs about 2 months ago. I got the Mrs to dtive over a speed bump and could see that the the under tray is catching. Seems like its got middle aged spread and its gut is hanging over its trousers!

1st thing I did was to check the tyre pressures! They were low on the passenger side @ around 27psi. So pumped all them up to 36psi. Not had much chance to re check everything out yet. Take a look at your shocks for any leaks! Do a MOT bounce test.

Be interesting to hear if others have had the same thing! The car does sit very low when looked at from underneath.
 

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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 04:12 AM
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Sue the council in the small-claims court for damage. If everyone did that these often ridiculous speed-bumps would disappear prontissimo.
There are actually TWO speed bumps assys. in what is a car park behind my house. How can one have respect for that kind of thing? What a waste of council tax-payers money.

Talking about waste, I wonder just how much extra pollution is created by drivers having to slow down pointlessly for them when driving conditions don't warrant? I reckon many tons of carbon dioxide would be saved nationally, and all over the world many thousands of tons.

I'm not even going to mention worn out shock-absorbers, damaged steering joints, et al, which all leave a carbon footprint behind from their manufacture. I'd bet all the carbon-dioxide saved by electric cars is eventually being wasted by all the hundreds of thousands of speed bumps around us.

Would some kind STATISTICIAN please work out what the carbon-dioxide situation really is with speed-bumps? You will have my eternal thanks.

Leedsman.
p.s. If your motor is riding low, probably the easiest fix is to fit higher-profile tyres.
p.s. #2. Suspension ***** in the coil springs make an amazing difference to ride-height. I've used hard rubber play-***** (for dogs) got from a pet shop, although you can get the proper thing from caravan dealers. Some nifty work with a hacksaw on the hard rubber ball making a shallow V-cut will ensure the ball doesn't come out of the spring's coil. Use a jemmy to force it in the bottom coil while jacked up. You can get up to 2" extra ride-height this way. I've never had any trouble from these. The coil spring is well inboard of the wheel, so only half an inch gained in the spring translates to a full inch or so at the wheel.
 

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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 04:52 AM
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Very well said Leedsman. All these stupid speed humps are a pain in the ****! Costing us all money that we don't want to send!
 
Old Oct 24, 2014 | 05:00 AM
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Hmm.. I was just experiencing the opposite and was thinking about that..
My GV is a very heavy car and I was surprised I could run over speedbumps almost without slowing down and still not hitting anything

I was wondering how that was possible and came up with the following:
My GV is factory rebuild as a "cargo car" meaning it's a two seater now and all chairs in the back are removed and the cargobay created while the rest of the car is exactly the same as a "normal" GV. But altogether its a lot lighter due to removing all seats in the back.
My GV has the "towing option" so maybe springs are adjusted? I know it has the rear swaybar as an extra already..
Finally, My GV has 17"alloy wheels, I understand standard sizes are 15" or 16"

So simply remove all seats and add 17" rims and '65' tyres
 
Old Oct 24, 2014 | 04:05 PM
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I did checked for oil leaks but all good and dry.The bounce check is ok..tire pressure a bit low but i don't think will affect it that much with the scraping i hear, it is out right nasty and every time i hear it i wanna sue....

Alright, it seems i've got a task ahead of me. I decided to change both struts and use Leedsman's trick on the coil springs.Tire replacement are no go as i just put new rubber on the wheels. Leedsman will these work?

http://http://www.towsure.com/produc...Assisters_prod

P.S. Can any of you guys measure from the center bottom of the fender to the center of the wheel hub , mine is 16.3 inch (41.5 cm)
 
Old Oct 24, 2014 | 04:48 PM
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I just measured mine: 45cm or 17.7"
That's with 17"rims and 65 height tyre
 
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