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Old 10-28-2009, 09:04 AM
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I got the car back today. The part that was replaced might very well be the metering proportioning valve. I only know the part number (0928400568) and the name in dutch (doseerunit, and doseren in dutch means proportioning). The part is cilinder shaped, has an electric connection and sits on the high pressure pump.
The shop pointed out to me that they are not sure that this will be the final cure , but that they had to trade off the cost of continuing to search and the cost of the part, which is only fair I think. All together I paid around 300 euro.
At the moment the engine runs fine.
One thing I noticed to be different from before is that when the ignition is on but the engine does not run, I used the hear a soft buzzing sound coming from the part that is now replaced. This is no longer so.
I really hope that this will be the end of it (otherwise I will report back!). Thank you all for the reponses!
 
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Old 10-29-2009, 06:05 PM
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yes thats the valve / solenoid I am sure it has fixed it based on the info you have posted. P1130 is fuel pressure malfunction so it can be too high pressure that sets this code not just low like has been suggested.
 
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Old 10-31-2009, 05:26 AM
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It will be a while before I will be fully confident but given the most recent comments I now have good hopes! Thank you all and especially Merlin for the help.
 
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Old 11-13-2009, 05:14 AM
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Default p1130 re-occurs after replacing solenoid

After having driven 600km since last post. The car stalled 2 times yesterday with 10 km in between. Again it happend while driving at constant speed on the motorway (grrr). At the time 1/4 tank of fuel was available.

After that I have added 30 liters of fuel and drove to the repair shop (100km) without further incidents. They were again very helpfull and scanned the car.

I took the following notes:

P1130
Leakeage detected
Defect status: active
Freq 2
ECT 79.13
Rail 58.23
RPM 1973
VSS 87
PredV 1.90

This is different an earlier error code (Pressure too high-shut off) but appears in the list of symptoms for which a dealer instruction exists. We looked at these instructions:

This instruction list these causes: air in fuel system, other DTC's(not present), fuel delivery system(filter replaced), fuel injector shorted to ground, fuel injectors (checked), fuel pressure solenoid (replaced), fuel pump, fuel system contamination, fuel sustem leak (can't see any), injector common driver open, intermittent condition (?meaning?).

I am now inclined to replace the fuel lift pump, together with the filter housing. Although There is plenty fuel delivery while cranking and the fuel pump does not need to run when driving, I suspect that the housing contains some (return)valves that do not work propery and somehow allow air in the system. The main reason for thinking this is the sound that the pump produces. Sometimes one hears a sound as if a mixture of air and fluid is pumped. Then again this might be normal. Yesterday I have compared with a different voyager diesel. Its fuel pump made a more constant sound then mine, and I imagined that it was louder.
The housing has 4 fuel connectors. Does anybody know what these connectors do? Are there ary any (return)valves in the pump housing that could be blocked, leaking or sticking?

Another option would be to remove the fuel tank and to check for contamination that could block the suction pipe. Does anybody know if the tank has an inspetion hatch that makes this a viable option?

Kind regards
Jacob
 
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:57 AM
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A noisy pump is a possible fault I am sure I posted this a the start? the 4 wires are 2 for the fuel heater and 2 for the pump.
The tank you can check as you can remove the level sensor.
 
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:24 PM
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My 2001 CRD has started idling eratically (I'm still showing the P1130 code) - it's worst when it's cold - it will drop the engine speed down to about 800 rpm and then suddenly 'bounce' it back to 1000 rpm. It also feels not quite right when holding a steady speed at below 2000rpm - difficult to describe, but just doesn't feel quite as smooth as it has done in the past. Is this likely to be the metering prop valve? If so, is this a Chrysler only part, or do Bosch make the same thing (cheaper?) and does anyone have the part number for this (assuming that this is the problem).

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Old 11-20-2009, 01:05 PM
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Hi
you will need to run all the checks listed here, It's a £350 so not a good guess at job. Bosch should do a replacement as it is a bosch pump.
 
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Old 11-20-2009, 01:51 PM
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it sounds more like a faulty injector rather than a mprop valve. whan the mprop is faulty it usually causes none start. i would get the injectors tested by a diesel specialist, either that or your injectors are leaking, check that they are definately not leaking
 
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Old 11-20-2009, 02:41 PM
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Thanks for both these replies. I'll try to get it to a Diesel Injection specialist when I get time.
 
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Old 11-23-2009, 03:29 AM
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For those (in the UK) who want to do the tests themselves, this might be interesting:

http://www.uniteddiesel.co.uk/diesel_engine_products/7/

They sell or hire test equipment for checking the leakback from injectors.
 


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